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Mafia Hit on the Media (Litvinenko and Berezovsky)
Atlantic Free Press ^
| 11/24/2006
| Copy Dude (John Weaver)
Posted on 11/30/2006 11:02:53 AM PST by GarySpFc
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posted on
11/30/2006 11:03:00 AM PST
by
GarySpFc
To: archy; Centurion2000; RusIvan; Romanov
Copy Dude on Berezovsky and Litinenko
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posted on
11/30/2006 11:04:22 AM PST
by
GarySpFc
To: GarySpFc
Is there any connection between Gaidar and Berezovsky from the early 90s?
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posted on
11/30/2006 11:17:58 AM PST
by
Eurotwit
(WI - CSC)
To: GarySpFc
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posted on
11/30/2006 11:22:11 AM PST
by
archy
(I am General Tso. This is my Chief of Staff, Colonel Sanders....)
To: GarySpFc
Interesting angle. Fits with what little I know of Boris Abramovich Berezovskiy.
There was a popular tele-journalist in Moscow back in the late 1990s who ran afoul of mafiosi and had to pay some protection money. Supposedly he had to give the money to Berezovskiy, who was to hand it off to the gangster. Berezovskiy instead went shopping, and the journalist ended up dead.
BAB is also the Russian businessman who invented the salary-less payroll, where employees wouldn't get paid, but had to keep getting salary advances to survive month to month. If they quit, "they'd never work in Moscow again", in addition to losing their back pay. The idea got so popular among Russian businessmen in the mid-1990s that pretty much nobody was getting paid.
BAB paid off Yeltsin through frequent luxury gifts and vacations. He even hired Yeltsin's son-in-law (the husband of Tanya Dyachenko, who pretty much ran the Kremlin during Yeltsin's frequent drunks) to be on the board of the airline Berezovskiy owned at the time, Aeroflot.
His role (along with General Lebed) in ending the first Chechen war was probably the reason he can't safely venture outside. Before he fled, several tapes of BAB talking on the phone with terrorists were aired. I had a lot of transcripts posted here, but when FR went to its new format, lots of history disappeared as well.
I'm amazed that UK decided to give BAB and assorted Chechen terrorists asylum, but the world long ago moved beyond my comprehension.
To: archy
I just reserved it at the library - thanks!
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posted on
11/30/2006 11:33:05 AM PST
by
Slump Tester
( What if I'm pregnant Teddy? Errr-ahh Calm down Mary Jo, we'll cross that bridge when we come to it)
To: GarySpFc
FReepers should also know that, if they follow the link to the website above, they'll find a piece titled "Capitalism, past its sell-by date?" Undoubtedly also an interesting read.
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posted on
11/30/2006 11:34:50 AM PST
by
1rudeboy
To: GarySpFc
All of this (including somewhat crude blame-shifting - like in the article posted) reminds me last years of Brezhnev, when quite a bit of high-profile guys lost their lives.
Obviously in 2008 "people" will kindly ask Putin to stay as President.
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posted on
11/30/2006 11:39:20 AM PST
by
alecqss
To: alecqss
Nope, Putin will not run for president.
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posted on
11/30/2006 11:45:41 AM PST
by
GarySpFc
To: struwwelpeter
What KOmmersant has to say today.
Chubais also tied the occurrence with Gaidar to two well-publicized murders. He is convinced that the death construct of Politkovskaya-Litvinenko-Gaidar, who has been averted only by a miracle, would be extremely attractive to supporters of an unconstitutional forcible coup d'etat in Russia, Chubais said.
Gozman commented on Chubais's statement that We know what the three events led to. In the West, it was a terrible blow to the image Russia and the president of Russia. That is advantageous to people who want to isolate Russia from the outside world, from the West. People who want to return to the Cold War and local hot wars and to cause disorder during that isolation. Some of those people live in our country
To: Toddsterpatriot
Check out the source link for a good laugh. Don't forget to read some of the bios of the contributors.
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posted on
11/30/2006 11:51:00 AM PST
by
1rudeboy
To: Eurotwit
Is there any connection between Gaidar and Berezovsky
Egor Gaidar was a politician during the early 1990s, so he probably has his share of Berezovskiy money in his Swiss bank account.
Interesting thing about Gaidar - he is the grandson of the communist author Arkady Gaidar (Golikov), who fought at 15 during the Russian revolution, and even at that tender age - as a platoon commander - participated in round-ups and murders of peasants. After the revolution he wrote cloyingly sick novels with Holden Caulfield-style young commies. He was pretty much an icon for Bolsheviks, and probably the reason his grandson got elected in the early 1990s.
Supposedly Arkady Gaidar died in battle during the early days of WW II, but in 1979 his biographer (Glushchenko), while looking into the "official" heroic version of Gaidar's death, found some contrary evidence. There was an old woman in the Ukraine who claimed Arkady Gaidar wasn't killed by the Germans, but hanged as a deserter. Supposedly hid out for a month in her root cellar, and she even had momentos and notebooks from the author. She stated that he was picked up by an NKVD squad, and went kicking and screaming.
When Glushchenko presented his work on Gaidar for review, he was asked by a high-level, commie bureaucrat if he was tired of living a peaceful life, and so the biographer decided to drop that angle.
Given Egor Gaidar's heroic genetic heritage, I wonder if he isn't faking it for a political comeback.
Now watch him go and die of Po-210 poisoning just to make me look bad ;-)
To: alecqss
"People" have already asked Putin to stay-and he has said no. Some in the Duma have suggested amending the constitution so he can stay-and he has opposed them.
Putin IS a bloody-minded SOB - no two ways about it-but I doubt this "trail" leads anywhere NEAR him !
Incidentally,some of the people who engineered the theft of 100 BILLION dollars in foreign aid money and loans have suddenly "remembered their heritage" - a la George Soros-and are suggesting Russia's desire to prosecute and imprison them is "an anti-semitic plot".
Yup,yup,yup.
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posted on
11/30/2006 11:55:10 AM PST
by
genefromjersey
(So much to flame;so little time !)
To: genefromjersey
Why not 100 TRILLION dollars? As we at it...
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posted on
11/30/2006 11:58:49 AM PST
by
alecqss
To: GarySpFc
Nope, Putin will not run for president. Concur. His business interests, the Russian Yukos oil conglomerate in particular, will require more of his hands-on attention. But he'll first have to find a trustworthy or frightened enough ally to take over as President of the Russian Federation.
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posted on
11/30/2006 11:59:27 AM PST
by
archy
(I am General Tso. This is my Chief of Staff, Colonel Sanders....)
To: oilfieldtrash
Who benefits by a resurrection of the Cold War? China? The Russian army?
About 20 years ago, during Gorby's "peaceful bear" posturing, the GRU (Soviet MI) shot a US liaison officer in East Germany. Kremlinologists went nuts trying to read between the lines on that one, and one theory was that Soviet general staff wasn't happy about "detente part two".
A few years before the USMLM officer was killed, while ex-KGB chief Andropov was trying to pass himself off as a peaceful admirer of Frank Sinatra and Johnny Walker Red, KAL 007 was shot down. That effectively ended the "peace offensive" back then. BTW: Andropov was Gorby's mentor.
But given all that, I'm ready to blame China. Or Putin. Or Barbara Streisand.
Anyone seen Hilary lately?
To: alecqss
I'll settle for the 100 billion,thank you !
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posted on
11/30/2006 12:04:08 PM PST
by
genefromjersey
(So much to flame;so little time !)
To: struwwelpeter
His role (along with General Lebed) in ending the first Chechen war was probably the reason he can't safely venture outside. Before he fled, several tapes of BAB talking on the phone with terrorists were aired. I had a lot of transcripts posted here, but when FR went to its new format, lots of history disappeared as well. I'm amazed that UK decided to give BAB and assorted Chechen terrorists asylum, but the world long ago moved beyond my comprehension.
Hmmm. Has anyone noticed if Sasha Umalatova has had any of her hair falling out lately? I wonder if DOE/NNSA/GTRI missed anything during their Chechnya expeditions.
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posted on
11/30/2006 12:05:23 PM PST
by
archy
(I am General Tso. This is my Chief of Staff, Colonel Sanders....)
To: genefromjersey
I'll settle for the 100 billion,thank you !
A cool head, I guess...
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posted on
11/30/2006 12:09:27 PM PST
by
alecqss
To: struwwelpeter
But given all that, I'm ready to blame China. Or Putin. Or Barbara Streisand. The prisoner Streisand has been removed to the headquarters building of the All-Russia Insurance Company, and there confessed her involvement in these crimes against the state, to her involvement with the criminal Trotsky in Mexico, and to detonating an explosive device at Tunguska.
Felix
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posted on
11/30/2006 12:11:33 PM PST
by
archy
(I am General Tso. This is my Chief of Staff, Colonel Sanders....)
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