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Grapes of wrath for French vineyards as millions of bottles are destroyed
The Scotsman ^ | November 28, 2006 | JENNY BARCHFIELD

Posted on 11/27/2006 11:34:11 PM PST by MadIvan

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To: tioga

Mmmm, yes! My parents recently moved to Seneca Lake and took me on a few wine tours when I visited this summer. We were all pleasantly surprised by the quality of it (I don't know why but we were all thinking they might be kind of cheapo--wrong! Shame on us, since we're actually from the area). I especially liked Dr. Frank's wines. Oh, and Belhurst! They had one of the best wines I've ever tasted, I think it was the Bordeaux Blend, can't remember.

Check it out folks, it's good!
http://www.fingerlakeswinecountry.com/


121 posted on 11/28/2006 8:40:01 AM PST by To Hell With Poverty
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To: Barset
Is there an American boycott of French wine?

Sheltered life? There's an American boycott of anything French -- including cheese.

122 posted on 11/28/2006 9:38:54 AM PST by GVnana (Former Alias: GVgirl)
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To: MadIvan

"In 1960, the average Frenchman drank 3.1 bottles of wine per week. Today, the average intake is 1.4 bottles per week and falling, according to Michel Baldassini, who heads the main Burgundy wine growers' association."

Muslims don't drink wine.


123 posted on 11/28/2006 9:41:36 AM PST by toddlintown (Six bullets and Lennon goes down. Yet not one hit Yoko. Discuss.)
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To: napscoordinator
I have been to France a number of times (especially in the south) and the regular people don't have this hatred for America like the government. Just my two cents.

Most of what we hate about France is concentrated in within a few miles in Paris, the real power center. The rest of the French are a bit liberal/socialist in outlook but are not the enemies of this country. However, their leadership is and they do continue to vote them into office.
124 posted on 11/28/2006 11:13:48 AM PST by George W. Bush
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To: GVnana

It can't be an official boycott since French goods are still available here.

I've already been branded un-American in Francophobe threads because I refuse to be bossed around and told what I can or cannot buy in order to "prove" my patriotism, so je m'en fou.

Incidentally, the most hated people in France are Parisians, especially the enarques, graduates of the Ecole Nationale d'Administration. These are the busy-bodies who govern France and create anti-American-Anglo crises in order to cover their own ignorance and fear of reality, and their self-enriching corruption.

Theodore Dalrymple has an interesting series in the English Review entitled Journey Across France. Reading it, you might become more sympathetic to the helplessness and frustration of the ordinary French citizen.


125 posted on 11/28/2006 11:17:10 AM PST by Barset
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To: JCEccles
Drinkers tend to think all non-drinkers drink "in private." That's not an accurate judgment.

Wow, I have never heard that one---that all drinkers tend to think all non-drinkers drink "in private." News to me!

Anyway, I can assure you that I, at least, have never thought that. Rather I have always thought that most non-drinkers were . . . non-drinkers.

However, I was stationed in the Middle East once and was privy to much of its private culture. I guess b/c drinking was so socially inappropriate, I only saw drinking in private. By private I mean at private parties, even if many other people including Americans were present; in private dinner rooms in all the international hotels, etc.

It was far from a teetotaller culture. It wasn't uncommon at all for Americans to be asked over for drinks.

126 posted on 11/28/2006 11:17:55 AM PST by wouldntbprudent (If you can: Contribute more (babies) to the next generation of God-fearing American Patriots!)
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To: GVnana

Sorry, that's http://www.newenglishreview.org.


127 posted on 11/28/2006 11:20:30 AM PST by Barset
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To: MadIvan
Hey dont forget Texas wines:

Messina Hoff

Llano Estacado

Fall Creek

I highly recommend Fall Creek's chardonney, Messina Hoff's Gertwitztrominer, and Llano Estacado's Granite Blush

128 posted on 11/28/2006 11:22:11 AM PST by Alkhin ("I WANT TO BELIEVE" X-Files)
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To: AppyPappy
Baptists don't drink either.

Never take one Baptist fishing with you because he'll drink all of your beer. Instead take two Baptists and neither one will drink it.

129 posted on 11/28/2006 11:24:47 AM PST by KarlInOhio (Hey Kerry, What part of showing heels and ass is a winning strategy in Iraq?)
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To: Barset

A spontaneous general boycott of all things French (wine, cheese, etc.) started in the run-up to the Iraq war when the French government not only failed to support us in the war, but *actively undermined* our position, both on the ground in the Middle East and at the U.N.

I do not expect our "friends" to agree on every issue, especially one as fickle politically as war. But I do expect our "friends" to respect our decisions as to what we need to do to defend our country, in the short- and long-term, and stay the hell out of the way if they disagree.

The anger at the French government was palpable---many being personally touched by family members who fought to liberate France, for one thing---and many have never gone back to buying French products. After a while, one becomes comfortable with the new items on the shopping list and there's no reason to go back--even if (big IF) the political passion subsides.


130 posted on 11/28/2006 11:25:59 AM PST by wouldntbprudent (If you can: Contribute more (babies) to the next generation of God-fearing American Patriots!)
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To: Barset

I don't know what, in your mind, would be an "official" boycott, but those who are offended by the hostility of France's leadership toward the US have made their sentiments known.


131 posted on 11/28/2006 11:29:43 AM PST by GVnana (Former Alias: GVgirl)
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To: MplsSteve
fyi from wiki!

Mustard Dijon is famous for its mustard, even though nowadays around 90% of all mustard seeds used are imported, mainly from Canada. The term Dijon mustard (moutarde de Dijon) designates a method for the making of mustard. Traditional Dijon mustard is particularly strong. Most Dijon mustard (brands such as Amora or Maille) is produced industrially, but the town also specializes in exotic or unusually-flavored mustard, often sold in decorative hand-painted faïence (china) pots. In non-European markets such as the United States the name "Dijon mustard" is not trademarked. The only way to be sure you are getting real Dijon mustard is to buy a jar that was imported from France; however, true Dijon mustard in exotic flavors can be difficult to find outside France.

132 posted on 11/28/2006 11:32:18 AM PST by wouldntbprudent (If you can: Contribute more (babies) to the next generation of God-fearing American Patriots!)
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To: MplsSteve

P.S. I'm big into not buying French products, but I do believe a jar of mustard every couple of years is acceptable. :)


133 posted on 11/28/2006 11:33:59 AM PST by wouldntbprudent (If you can: Contribute more (babies) to the next generation of God-fearing American Patriots!)
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To: MadIvan
I've read that 2005 and 2006 were wonderful growing seasons and have produced such a bounty that prices have plummeted. In Europe I have also read there is so much supply that prices for excellent French wines have collapsed.

Unfortunately the prices are still holding up in the US.

By the way I had 2006 Beaujolais Nouveau on Thanksgiving and thought it was just fine.
134 posted on 11/28/2006 11:38:38 AM PST by Blackirish
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To: MinorityRepublican

Include me in that 10%. I used to purchase French wines--but I never will again. Napa Valley Merlots and Cabs are just as good anyway.


135 posted on 11/28/2006 11:38:58 AM PST by stockstrader ("Where government advances--and it advances relentlessly--freedom is imperiled"-Janice Rogers Brown)
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To: wouldntbprudent

LOL!

Yeah, I think you're right.

A large jar of Maille (every couple of years) is doable.


136 posted on 11/28/2006 11:58:30 AM PST by MplsSteve
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To: MadIvan

The boycott probably has some effect; but as someone who lived the past 5-years in Chile, I can say that Chilean and Argentinean wines are having a big impact on the world market. Chilean and Argie wines are very good and very cheap. I seek them out at local markets and would never consider a European wine over a good Chilean wine.

Also, France's production costs are way higher than the "New World" producers. I recently read that in France, one worker tends 2-hectares of vineyard, where in Australia and Chile one worker tends about 10-hectares. The French just can not compete economically. I toured a two-year old winery in Chile earlier this year and it was a world-class facility...everything state of art, owned by one of the wealthies families in Chile. The Chileans are doing joint-ventures with North American producers and are aggresively marketing their wines world wide.

Regards


137 posted on 11/28/2006 12:06:12 PM PST by Cuttnhorse
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To: MadIvan

Hey France - you suck - Muslims won't drink your wine but that's who you are stuck with.


138 posted on 11/28/2006 12:07:09 PM PST by AD from SpringBay (We have the government we allow and deserve.)
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To: Paleo Conservative

Some New Zealand wines are excellent as well.


139 posted on 11/28/2006 12:19:48 PM PST by Stonewall Jackson ("I see storms on the horizon.")
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To: MplsSteve

My SIL just made a women salmon dish with a Dijon mustard glaze for Thanksgiving and I didn't turn it down! :)

Just pour a nice New World wine with it and some New World cheese on the side and you're good to go!

Now you've got me hungry. Dang.


140 posted on 11/28/2006 12:35:59 PM PST by wouldntbprudent (If you can: Contribute more (babies) to the next generation of God-fearing American Patriots!)
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