Turks blast Pope on eve of arrival (demands for apology over Crusades)

The star - European Bureau ^ | 11/27/06 | The Star

[redgolum]

One young man who spoke to two muslims in New York spoke in our end times Bible class yesterday. He says they are waiting for Jesus to come and mobilize all the Muslims and take vengeance on the Jews, Christians and America. They are so deluded. I pray Jesus will make Himself real to them soon. Many people in Iran and Iraq have come to know Him but they're afraid to tell anyone. How sad.

There is a reason why islam used to be called the church of the AntiChrist.

[Raymann]

Just to play the Devils Advocate, isn't partly the Wests fault that Byzantium fell? After all, one of the Crusades did invade, divided it up, and left them hopelessly weakened in the face of the Muslim threat.

That said, Islam is obsessed with events done 1,000 years ago (perhaps thats because that was the last time they were revelent?) The West barely cares about what happened 15 years ago.

[MNJohnnie]

Perhaps the West helped bring about the fall of Byzantium but they did not cause it. That was done by a Muslim Army. So if the Muslims want an apology for the Crusades they can start the ball rolling by apologizing for 15 centuries of rape, murder and torture done in the name of Islam.

[Rurudyne]

Actually, in Huntington's concept, every civilization defines itself in the opposition to others: "THIS is what I am, as opposed to THAT which I am not".

The absence of something doesn't mean that there is something viable left in its place. This is what C.S.Lewis referred to as stepping outside of the "Tao of Humanity."

This is a problem that the radicals pose to Islam as a whole, not that they are violent but that their violence is largely internalized and directed towards other Muslims who want a functioning culture and society. Also, their violence glorifies the onset of human futility by embracing the indoctrination and deaths of their own young.

In comparison to the rest of Islam, the radicals are merely "trousered apes" (to borrow another of Lewis' terms).

[bd476]

"Rurudyne wrote: "Wait ... I thought I posted that there was a good chance that the person holding the sign KNEW English ("can understand English" to quote myself).

I was not the one suggesting that she did not understand the words on the sign she was holding up!"

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Rurudyne perhaps

• you are not reading what your nimble fingers are typing, or
• you don't believe what you write, or
• you possess the belief that truth twisting is a worthy goal, or
• you enjoy seeing your words in print so much you feel compelled to play childish games on a conservative website.

In any case, once again, your words are posted below:

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Rurudyne wrote: "In all fairness, there is a good chance that both the holder of the sign and the intended reader can understand English. The person in the picture may be ignorant of truth (being deceived by a false prophet), but that doesn't mean she's uneducated or dumb."

[CottShop]

Ahhh angry Muslims- whoda thunk it? http://sacredscoop.com

[blinachka]

"Jesus is not the son of God, he is a prophet of Islam."

This si BLASPHEMY!! OFF with their heads!

Oh wait...WE don't do things like that...that's their schtick...Our main message is "Love one another"...

[Psycho_Bunny]

The crusades was just one of those parties that got out of hand.

[GulfWar1Vet]

Wait, I thought Islam was of satan! /sarc/

[longtermmemmory]

I want an appology AND FINANCIAL REPARAIONS for 400 years of slavery and religious oppression from the ottomans!

[windsorknot]

Gee, I wasn't aware that Pope Benedict XVI played a role in the Crusades.

[RinaseaofDs]

Very well put.

I would add that this is the continuation of a war started back in 672 and has continued on to today.

[longtermmemmory]

Look at what the BBC is reporting about that

Q&A: Turkey's EU entry talks with Turkish Citizen Comments.(Man on Street Comment Alert)


The man on the street comments are very telling, they think they have a better world view than the USA.


This is typical islamic misdirection for the western useful idiots. The MSM eats this up and reports it as fact.

[longtermmemmory]

Islamic protesters use Crusaders as pajorative as the kkk using the n word.

[colorado tanker]

They trashed the Hagia Sophia, the most beautiful church in Christendom and destroyed its priceless mosaics, turning it into a mosque. I've never heard an apology for that.

[Don Corleone]

These idiots might as well blame the serpant, Eve and the apple for all their discontent...not to mention poor old stupid and gullable Adam.

[longtermmemmory]

The pope speak german,

The pope lives in italy

The pope is visiting in Turkey

Yet all the signs of the protesters are conveniently in ENGLISH!

(so much for press 1)

Seriously, I bet a few astute cameramen could take some pictures discretly showing how the protests are for show rather than substance.

[Don Corleone]

That said, Islam is obsessed with events done 1,000 years ago (perhaps thats because that was the last time they were revelent?) The West barely cares about what happened 15 years ago.

How 'bout 2 commercials ago?

[Raymann]

Que? :)

[Marysecretary]

I didn't know they were but makes some sense to me. I never knew much about Islam until 911, however.