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Triple Cross, How Bin Laden's Master Spy Penetrated the CIA, the Green Berets and the FBI
Harper Collins ^ | 11/18/2006 | Peter Lance, Harper Collins press release

Posted on 11/19/2006 9:14:16 AM PST by vadkins

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To: Peach
No suggestion about it, crime in New York City is a local issue and what the next election is about is credibility.

Rudy was not willing to put his name to the test to run this past election against Hillry in a Senate race, what makes you believe he has what it takes to take her on in a presidential election. He already voted for her as co-president.

Hillry will run so far to the right that Rudy will appear to be a leftist or a rich corrupt Republican when she gets done wrapping up his packaging.

Thanks to McCain/Feingold she has the extended arm of the MSM to close up her electioneering 60 days before the election.

Nice to see you expose your need for personal NE etiquette jabs. I think they fall under Hillry's rules of ridicule.
21 posted on 11/19/2006 10:16:01 AM PST by Just mythoughts
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To: Just mythoughts

I don't think you could make less sense if you tried. But I'll bet you'll prove me wrong.


22 posted on 11/19/2006 10:22:10 AM PST by Peach (The Clintons pardoned more terrorists than they captured or killed.)
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To: vadkins

Wow! Fitzgerald has a lot to account for. Probably will get a pass on this.


23 posted on 11/19/2006 10:29:30 AM PST by Marysecretary (Thank you, Lord, for FOUR MORE YEARS!!!)
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To: vadkins

In honesty, I have to say that the FBI has been covering its behind concerning its role in the events leading up to 9/11. The agency seems to have made several blunders, and has been working to limit the damage to the agency.


24 posted on 11/19/2006 10:32:27 AM PST by popdonnelly
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To: vadkins

An example of the FBI obscuring facts: the FBI sent two agents to Prague in May, 2001, to investigate possible contacts between Mohammed Atta and the Iraqi Embassy. But after the events of September 11th, the FBI took the position that Atta was in the United States at the time he was sighted in Prague.


25 posted on 11/19/2006 10:36:25 AM PST by popdonnelly
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To: Peach

Oh no I will not even begin to try, cause I am well aware just how much smarter and better you are than me.


26 posted on 11/19/2006 10:38:46 AM PST by Just mythoughts
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To: popdonnelly
In honesty, I have to say that the FBI has been covering its
behind concerning its role in the events leading up to 9/11.


E.g., dismissing the report of suspicious activity by a group of
Middle-Eastern type on a pre-9-11 Boston-to-LA flight by actor
James Woods (and a stewardess) as "racial profiling".

Woods did get seem to relish the about-face when the FBI agents
showed up at his door the morning of 9-12-01.
27 posted on 11/19/2006 10:44:16 AM PST by VOA
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To: Peach
You guys are like the Republican Party.

You are getting immersed in the little things.

What I believe to be the big story here is confirmation of my thoughts from immediately after 9/11.

There was never any need to create the giant money rat hole called Homeland Security.

If the FBI, the CIA and in particular the Immigration Service had been doing their job, 9/11 could not have happened.

Many INS problems were caused by lack of funding, but the bottom line is that Bush should have canned everyone he could in the three departments, promoted up into dead end desk jobs those he could not fire because of civil service laws and we would be better off.

There would have been no need for Homeland Security.

But all politicians jazz the voters with "We need to pass a law". A great way to cover their lack of performance under present law.
28 posted on 11/19/2006 10:44:44 AM PST by woodbutcher
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To: nralife
"Unlike a true AK-47, which is basically a machine gun, and for the most part, is illegal to own or acquire in the US. Very very few of them are in civilian hands."

Actually full auto firearms, including AK-47s, are legal in many states, just prohibitively expensive. A full auto AK47 costs in the range of $10,000 while a semi-auto costs $400-$600.

29 posted on 11/19/2006 10:46:40 AM PST by Eagles6 (Dig deeper, more ammo.)
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To: vadkins

for the forum, a link to the amazon.com listing for the book:

http://www.amazon.com/Triple-Cross-Penetrated-FBI-Fitzgerald/dp/0060886889/sr=1-1/qid=1163961899/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1/002-9004286-3434428?ie=UTF8&s=books


30 posted on 11/19/2006 10:50:00 AM PST by VOA
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To: vadkins

Duty is word unknown. "Career" is not duty.


31 posted on 11/19/2006 10:52:51 AM PST by bvw
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To: Just mythoughts
Why can't some of you have a conversation without inventing attacks on our leaders? We've spent six years with these negative attacks on this countries greatest leaders from democrats and the press.

Rumsfeld with an outstanding list of accomplishments gave up a chairmanship of Gilead (one heck of a company) to get trashed in the public sector by the same baseless attacks.

What in Rudy Giuliani's history suggest that he hasn't performed with honor or integrity? And why would he support Clinton who pardoned Marc Rich, one of his cases in 1983?
32 posted on 11/19/2006 10:59:44 AM PST by ridge
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To: Eagles6
"Actually full auto firearms, including AK-47s, are legal in many states, just prohibitively expensive. A full auto AK47 costs in the range of $10,000 while a semi-auto costs $400-$600."


I gotcha... that's why I said true AK-47s (not semi-auto clones) were illegal "for the most part." You need to get a Class III permit (tax stamp), which isn't always easy, and the few that are in this country are very expensive. I forget what year it was, but about a decade or so ago, no new machine guns were allowed to be manufactured, imported, or sold to the general public. Only the limited supply already in existing hands at the time, may now be possesed or transfered. I bet there are less than a hundred, if that many, true AK-47s legally owned by civilians in this country. That's certainly not the picture anti-gunners and the MSM like to paint.
33 posted on 11/19/2006 11:04:17 AM PST by nralife
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To: vadkins
Duty means acceptance of public scorn, public failure, broken marriages due to financial stress and public scorn, and even children who have no idea why their dad (or mom) is such a failure, so scorned in the media.

Duty means that because all of that is immaterial to duty. Duty cares, sure, but duty is buty.

And a fine, constantly upward career culiminating in a nice pension and such is not duty. So duty is scorned, forgotten.

But not quite forgotten -- it subliminates, the psyche's energy meant to be used for duty goes elsewhere. It gets used. Comes out in meanness for some, in callousness for others. Always anger in some way, a slow burning constant hate of the world and everyone in it.

Duty means making choices in the most optimistic heart-felt and diligently considered manner.

Just how is Mr. Fitzgerald's career?

34 posted on 11/19/2006 11:05:18 AM PST by bvw
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To: bvw

Duty is duty, that is. What a typo!


35 posted on 11/19/2006 11:06:43 AM PST by bvw
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To: vadkins

bttt


36 posted on 11/19/2006 11:08:50 AM PST by Txsleuth (Bolton/Cheney (that would be Lynne) 08)
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To: norton

I once had a couple beers with Peter Lance (I seem to recall he liked Dos Equis; I prefer reinheitsgebot-valid ones). This was back in college, in the Pittsburgh area. A university which will remain nameless had gotten him to speak at a lecture to aspiring college journos like me. At the time he was speaking to us, he was, or had just finished up a stint at the ABC News program 20/20.

My memories of him were these. He's a straightforward, meat-and-potatoes kinda reporter, with a healthy distrust of authority. More importantly, Lance struck me as someone for whom the truth matters a great deal. Lance gave me the impression he was the sort of guy who, if he came across information which directly contradicted the original premise of his story, would tell the facts instead of changing them to suit the original premise. You may not agree with everything he's written or produced, but for my money, I would tend to trust him instead of some of these other NYT/CBS News/WaPo types.

He's now a refugee from the MSM. Having spent an evening listening to him, and talking about the news over a couple of beers, I can see why he's an author now, and having nothing to do with television news.


37 posted on 11/19/2006 11:09:04 AM PST by Sam_Damon
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To: vadkins

bookmark


38 posted on 11/19/2006 11:23:22 AM PST by MamaLucci (God Bless Our Troops)
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To: Peach
Oh, he's just the foremost example. If you don't know, read the WSJ editorials on the Milken case. Guiliani made his name there with the most brazen, unfounded, accusations imaginable. If government employees weren't protected from slander laws, he would have been sued and would have lost hugely. The (IIRC) 104 counts piled on just forced Milken to plead guilty to, I believe, 4 fairly minor counts just to save himself and some of what he'd worked for.

My accusations aren't unfounded, except to the ignorant. I just didn't realize that anyone on this forum wouldn't know about Guiliani.

39 posted on 11/19/2006 11:26:11 AM PST by jammer
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To: nralife

I wasn't trying to grill you--it was for my information. I have that peeve also, but am obviously less knowledgeable than you. Thanks.


40 posted on 11/19/2006 11:29:17 AM PST by jammer
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