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FUTURE OF THE GOP - All factions agree it's time to start over on an agenda
San Francisco Chronicle ^ | 11/9/6 | Carolyn Lochhead

Posted on 11/09/2006 7:48:23 AM PST by SmithL

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To: SteamshipTime
If Congress makes it legal for 2 million Third Worlders to enter every year, and to give birth to brand new US citizens in the delivery rooms of public hospitals, are you still for LEGAL immigration?

I am always for legal immigration.

That is what this nation was built on.

61 posted on 11/09/2006 2:30:59 PM PST by fortheDeclaration (Am I therefore become your enemy because I tell you the truth? (Gal.4:16))
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To: fortheDeclaration

Nonsense. The US is a former British colony founded by English and Scots-Irish. Immigration has brought us nothing but cultural and classical Marxism and criminality. Just look at the Rust Belt and the liberal Northeast urban hellholes for the legacy of immigration.

And are you for legal immigration of Arab Wahabbists? Nigerian scam artists? Honduran gangbangers? When Bush and this Congress roll out the welcome mat that is what you are going to get. And they won't be coming here with copies of the Declaration in their pockets.


62 posted on 11/10/2006 5:44:07 AM PST by SteamshipTime
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To: SmithL
immigration reform

I find this phrase infuriating. What the Hell is there to reform ? Immigration laws are already there, but nobody gives a damn about enforcing them.

63 posted on 11/10/2006 5:54:33 AM PST by HarmlessLovableFuzzball
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To: fortheDeclaration
I am always for legal immigration

This nation cannot take even legal immigrants forever. Unless a potential immigrant has something of value to contribute, I don't see the point of it.

64 posted on 11/10/2006 5:59:46 AM PST by HarmlessLovableFuzzball
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To: SmithL
The real agenda hasn't changed: social security reform, health care reform, school choice, tax reform, controlling the borders, balancing the budget. Everything else is window dressing.

We need to elect people who aren't afraid of their own shadows. This is a classic Newt moment. Where Gingrich always excelled was in finding positive ways to frame the message. That's the skill that is so sorely lacking right now.

65 posted on 11/10/2006 6:00:31 AM PST by sphinx
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To: tiki
We..let the Dims continually get their message out

Oh please, what message would that be, pray tell. If at all, it was automatically opposing Bush on the issue of the day.

66 posted on 11/10/2006 6:05:57 AM PST by HarmlessLovableFuzzball
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To: HarmlessLovableFuzzball

Their message was that Republicans were evil and corrupt.


67 posted on 11/10/2006 9:45:09 AM PST by tiki
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To: SmithL

Just keep telling American voters that they're lazy and that "hard workers" have to be imported.Yeah,that'll get the votes in.(sarc)


68 posted on 11/10/2006 10:24:10 AM PST by quack
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To: HarmlessLovableFuzzball
Well, all you are doing is making the requirements for being a legal immigrant more strigent, but not ending legal immigrantion.

This nation has plenty of room for more immigrants.

The problem is we are not teaching them to be Americans and to reject what was wrong with the nations they left.

69 posted on 11/10/2006 11:09:32 AM PST by fortheDeclaration (Am I therefore become your enemy because I tell you the truth? (Gal.4:16))
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To: SteamshipTime
Now it is you who is talking nonsense.

This nation is a nation of immigrants.

Now, a nation has a right to pick those they allow in their nation, but the Statue of Liberty is what Americanism is about.

What the other nations reject, send to us, and with hard work and desire, they will succeed.

The problem is not immigrants, the problem is welfare and multiculturalism.

70 posted on 11/10/2006 11:16:58 AM PST by fortheDeclaration (Am I therefore become your enemy because I tell you the truth? (Gal.4:16))
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To: fortheDeclaration

No, the US is (or was) a nation of Anglo-Celt descendants of British colonists. The Emma Lazarus poem is unique to the people from New York City who sponsored the Statue of Liberty project in the 1880's.

"The problem is not immigrants, the problem is welfare and multiculturalism."

Care to tell me how you are going to get rid of welfare and multiculturalism while importing ever more welfare and multicult constituents?


71 posted on 11/13/2006 12:41:28 PM PST by SteamshipTime
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Care to tell me how you are going to get rid of welfare and multiculturalism while importing ever more welfare and multicult constituents?

The way it always has, by turning them into Americans.

People come here because they do not like where they are, because America offers them something better.

What they need to learn is why America is better then the nations they left,what makes us different is our individual freedom.

We are nation of individuals, not tribes, racial or ethnic groups, as they are in those nations they left.

72 posted on 11/13/2006 1:53:45 PM PST by fortheDeclaration (Am I therefore become your enemy because I tell you the truth? (Gal.4:16))
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