[Weight of Glory]

I would like to remind everyone that this may or may not be true. We need independent verification. I wanted to post this, not to cause a firestorm, but to see if any other freepers have heard or read anything that might substantiate redstate.com's claims. From their updates, it seems as though they have a source on the ground at some of these polling places.

[dforest]

Don't they have other copies of these books?

[thomas16]

It doesn't matter in Philly it always goes straight democrat, I wouldn't even bother voting Republican, Rendell had it wrapped he really doesn't even need fraud. Although the unions always run the voting booths and throw a few extra votes in for good measure.

[Crawdad]

The odds of my National Do-Over on November 11, 2006 just dropped to 2:1.

[RockinRight]

I'm becoming convinced that Philadelphia should be broken off the state of Pennsylvania.

[RockinRight]

Philly fraud machine out in full force?

[philsfan24]

unreal - im in philadelphia right now. where are these polling places? if it aint far ill go check it out.

[newzjunkey]

Maybe some folks didn't get their scrapple this morning?

[dinoparty]

I think that we should resist the urge to yell "fraud", even when we think we see it, unless it is obvious and drastic. The more this nation becomes untrustworthy and regulates and "observes" every aspect of the democratic process, the more corruption will happen. After all, once you essentially tell certain elements of the citizenry that we don't EXPECT them to act honorably, by telling them we are looking over their shoulders, they will see no reason to act honorably when they think they can get away with acting otherwise. Its like the spouse who is constantly accused by the other spouse of infidelity without evidence -- eventually the accused spouse will begin to think that he/she might as well be unfaithful because they will be accused of it anyway.

[pabianice]

No votes in Philly will count. Cool!

[Psycho_Bunny]

If this is true the perps should be arrested and prosecuted mercilessly - to the fullest extent of the law.

[The Electrician]

Incidents like this one, if true, suggest that not enough attention is being paid to "the enemies inside". For example, tracking of what goes on in the cesspools of the Middle East, especially in the non-English media, including TV, radio, newspapers, blogs and other web sites, is performed by groups such as MEMRI (and perhaps Jihad Watch).

Also, there is plenty of attention paid to some left-wing enemies such as nutcase media, blogs, etc., by 'citizen journalists', at least when the sources are published in English and publicly distributed rather than passed discreetly through private networks (although there may be gaps in areas such as deep inside the eco-terror movement).

Are there similar citizen-journalist-based reporting and monitoring efforts paying attention to apparently organized criminal elements such as the ones that appear to be behind the acts described in this post? Maybe the 'Minutemen' or similar groups are already doing that work?

Spilling white-out on the voter rolls, followed by letting anyone and everyone vote without checking their eligibility, if actually happening as alleged, is the kind of criminal act that requires a conspiracy to be effective - for example, if I were to try such a stunt at my local polling place, there would not be crowds of purportedly ineligible-to-vote illegal aliens who "just happened" to show up and cast votes. Rather, it must have been planned and organized and publicized in advance. How? By word of mouth? By fliers posted on telephone poles or in neighborhood stores? By pirate radio stations? By more powerful shadow organizations, such as gangs or unions or political bosses? By the local Democrat party establishment, with inside help at the polling places?

I'm not advocating a police-state-like internal intelligence gathering and spying effort. Rather, I'm wondering whether individual citizens, who speak the language and know the local landscape, are capable of monitoring and reporting on such activities. There was a time when traditional newspapers and other media might have played such a role, but it's not clear that they are up to (or interested in) the task...

[mykpfsu]

Not this shit again. Didn't Philly have major problems in 2004?

[tomnbeverly]

Typical... I hold no hope out for PA anyway... Let the Liberals make fools of themselves.. it will only hurt them in 08

[tomnbeverly]

Let the Dems win in Philly maybe Al-Qaeda will make them the new central front in the War On Terror...

[armymarinemom]

Someone just called into Brian and the Judge from PA. They were saying that when you punched Rep it went in straight Democrat.

[E Rocc]

Weren't there machines in Philly that had votes on them before the polls opened in 2004?

-Eric

[Graymatter]

Let's give blame where it's due:

AL GORE

[End Times Sentinel]

The only fraud I see here is this story.  There aren't voting precincts in Philadelphia.  There's Wards which are divided into divisions.  "precincts 7, 19, 51" means nothing and no one who has any real insight would ever report in that way.

This thread should be pulled.

Owl_Eagle

If what I just wrote made you sad or angry,
it was probably just a joke.

[Apple Blossom]

It was only a matter of time....