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There has never been an American army as violent and murderous as the one in Iraq; ~ Sy Hersh
The McGill Daily ^ | Monday, October 30th, 2006 | Martin Lukacs

Posted on 11/01/2006 2:48:26 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach

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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

I think the Mongols were a tad more "assertive" when they passed through Iraq.


41 posted on 11/01/2006 3:16:50 PM PST by glorgau
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
"Speaking to launch McGill’s interdisciplinary media studies program last Wednesday, Hersh said he had seen video footage of atrocities in Iraq."

Gosh, are those the same ones John Kerry saw in Viet Nam? LOL.
These people are disgusting. Amen.
42 posted on 11/01/2006 3:16:51 PM PST by gakrak ("A wise man's heart is his right hand, But a fool's heart is at his left" Eccl 10:2)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

bump


43 posted on 11/01/2006 3:17:50 PM PST by VOA
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To: newconhere
Hersh continued. “[The soldiers] open up fire; [the] cameras show it was a soccer game.”

“About ten minutes later, [the soldiers] begin dragging bodies together, and they drop weapons there. It was reported as 20 or 30 insurgents killed that day,” he said.

Those of us who have been in the military and those of us who have seen movies about the American military, know that from time to time when the environment is quiet for a while, members might lay down their weapons and engage in an impromptu game of football or some other type of entertainment. Would enemy combatants have refrained from firing if they had come upon such a situation?

Another thing bothers me about Hersh's recounting; if I imagine myself playing football within line of shooting sight of an explosion that destroys a military vehicle, would I ignore the event and proceed with my football game?

...and then, where was this camera person who is recording these scenes from angles that show the explosion, and the troops deploying, and the soccer game joyfully and innocently proceeding?

Were there credits on this video? Who did the video, the editing and the special effects?

The article fails to mention that Hersh also wrote that Clinton bombed an aspirin factory in the Sudan in the list of reports they attribute to him.

44 posted on 11/01/2006 3:18:39 PM PST by Positive (Nothing is sadder than to see a beautiful theory murdered by a gang of brutal facts.)
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To: Liberty Valance

If ANYTHING, we haven't stacked enough of them like cord wood,razed their strongholds, violently crushed them day after day, extracted their leaders, dropped enough MOABS, broken their spirit, sent a message, or put the fear of the holy lord in them.


45 posted on 11/01/2006 3:20:41 PM PST by samadams2000 (Somebody important make....THE CALL!)
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To: Bommer

Pershing is one of my greatest heroes! So is Patton.


46 posted on 11/01/2006 3:20:58 PM PST by wjcsux (The Republicans are disappointing, the DemosRATs are dangerous- Dr. Sowell)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Hersh is off his meds Fur Shur. I think he's been watching that Turkish movie too ~ do they let him go outside often these days?


47 posted on 11/01/2006 3:21:17 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
So this POS goes to a College and spews nothing but bile about America. Probably received a standing ovation.

Yet if a person say Oliver North went there that has the opposite view, they would be attacked on stage.

48 posted on 11/01/2006 3:22:07 PM PST by rocksblues (Do unto others as they do unto you!)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
I'm pretty sue Hersh' story was time to coincide with Kerry's anti-military statement yesterday.

He seems to have missed out on what happened there ~ Kerry screwed up the delivery and it came out as a poor joke.

49 posted on 11/01/2006 3:22:43 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
A military that kills the enemy. What is this world coming to.

This is not Klinton's meals on wheels military.

A military where the troops have NO ammunition in their weapons when they stand guard. Such as the sailors on the deck of the USS Cole.

Hersch as usual has his head stuck up Kerry's butt.

50 posted on 11/01/2006 3:24:22 PM PST by OldFriend (JOHN F. KERRY, BETRAYING OUR TROOPS AGAIN)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Another objective journalist weighs in.


51 posted on 11/01/2006 3:25:47 PM PST by facedown (Armed in the Heartland)
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To: rocksblues

a college in Canada... don't forget the Canada part.


52 posted on 11/01/2006 3:32:08 PM PST by NYleatherneck (It ain't a World War until the French surrender.)
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To: NYleatherneck

This POS probably doesn't recognize borders. And he would said the same thing in Ithaca, Georgetown, Durham etc.


53 posted on 11/01/2006 3:37:47 PM PST by rocksblues (Do unto others as they do unto you!)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

President Bush has said that "Sy Hersh is a liar".


54 posted on 11/01/2006 3:40:47 PM PST by Praxeologue
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
If Americans knew the full extent of U.S. criminal conduct, they would receive returning Iraqi veterans as they did Vietnam veterans, Hersh said. “In Vietnam, our soldiers came back and they were reviled as baby killers, in shame and humiliation,” he said.

There is no other interpretation to this passage but that he approves of the abuse toward Vietnam veterans--cursing at them, spitting at them, calling them war criminals--and that the same behaviors need to be repeated with Iraq vets.

Beyond despicable. But Hersh is only being honest; there are a lot of people on the Left who think this way, but they know to keep their mouths shut.

55 posted on 11/01/2006 3:41:00 PM PST by denydenydeny ("We have always been, we are, and I hope that we always shall be detested in France"--Wellington)
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To: dynoman
Hasn't he read any history?

Why would he bother, he makes his own up as he goes along.

Bashing America since (at least) the '60s.

56 posted on 11/01/2006 3:41:36 PM PST by El Gato
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

“In Washington, you can’t expect any rationality. I don’t know if he’s in Iraq because God told him to, because his father didn’t do it, or because it’s the next step in his 12-step Alcoholics Anonymous program,” he said.

Or maybe Bush drew the same conclusions as: John Kerry, Bill Clinton, Sandy Berger, Madeline Albright, Colin Powell, Ted Kennedy, et al.

All of whom saw the eventual need to deal militarily with Saddam's Iraq. George walked the walk, instead of just talking the talk.

This media hack would probably complain on behalf of the Nazis' menus during the Nuremberg trials.

He would probably blame America for the civilians the Japs murdered on the islands.

He's so predictable.


57 posted on 11/01/2006 3:41:57 PM PST by truth_seeker
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

He's a lunatic. That said, I am happy he is not within arms reach, or I would gladly throttle him.


58 posted on 11/01/2006 3:43:07 PM PST by RobbyS ( CHIRHO)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

one would hope so .... what is the purpose of an Army at war but to kill? The more "insurgents" they kill the better!


59 posted on 11/01/2006 3:44:31 PM PST by EDINVA
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach; lizol
Perhaps this dumbass has never heard of Halabji or Saddam?





or



FR coverage?


Oooh, I forgot

Just another friend of

john kerry.

It was john who made
all the claims when he was in VietNam
wasn't it?

Yet the dem's
wanted
who for pres?

60 posted on 11/01/2006 3:45:26 PM PST by Issaquahking (Trust can't be bought)
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