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Saddam Accepted the American Ultimatum Before the US Invasion
Yahoo ^ | 10/30/06

Posted on 10/30/2006 4:10:24 PM PST by Mr. Brightside

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To: Mr. Brightside

BS....Remember folks..SADDAM KICKED CNN OUT OF IRAQ A WEEK BEFORE THE ENVASION!! The guy is lying!!


81 posted on 10/30/2006 5:48:40 PM PST by penelopesire
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To: Mr. Brightside

They can't pull the same crap as they did with the "Japan was ready to surrender 2 seconds before Hiroshima."

Saddam could have gone on any TV station instantaneously.


82 posted on 10/30/2006 5:50:02 PM PST by AmishDude (Mwahahahahahahahaha -- official evil laugh of the North American Union)
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To: penelopesire

opps..Invasion...LOL. Not very good at multi tasking here...


83 posted on 10/30/2006 5:50:24 PM PST by penelopesire
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To: traditional1

Pretty dispicable for sure.


84 posted on 10/30/2006 5:54:43 PM PST by lexington minuteman 1775
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To: Mr. Brightside

WHAT KIND OF OCTOBER SURPRISE CRAP IS THIS?!
Yahoo is doing DNC dirty work again?


85 posted on 10/30/2006 5:59:14 PM PST by cjmae (Sanity was not equally distributed)
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To: perez24

Didn't this story come out a couple of years ago too? I'm not criticizing, it just seems familiar

I think it's bunk but I don't recall it.
Yahoo is at it again!

NYT tomorrow?
Maybe next Monday


86 posted on 10/30/2006 6:01:18 PM PST by cjmae (Sanity was not equally distributed)
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To: Centurion2000

Look at the list of items he claims were taken from him (and notice the organization from whence the link comes from):

List of Items Stolen
Several official Iraqi governmental documents and letters
Several photographs of lraqi officials and some of the National Folklore Company
Canon Camera with the roll of film inside
Toshiba Notebook computer
Valid Canadian Passport
Two voided Canadian Passports
Egyptian Passport
Three Japanese Saving Accounts Bank Books
Two Taiwanese Accounts Saving bank Books
Three Egyptian Bank Accounts Books
$1 18,700 (US$) cash hidden in hotel room
$300 (US$) cash on person
$200 (Iraqi currency) cash on person
Casio Address Book organizer and contents
Address book
Hotel rooin key taken out of pocket
Hotel ID card
Canadian citizenship card
Wallet
Canadian social insurance card
US social security card
US "Green Card" (INS certificate)
Florida drivers license
Bank of Montreal ATM card
Airline reservation voucher and used tickets
Business contacts cards
lraqi visa and official letters
Transcript of health book
Private pilot's license (US)
Aircraft and power plant license (US)
Aircraft Maintenance Engineer License (Canada)
Pilot log book
Pulse Generator (a German invention)
Engineering degree transcript
Egyptian military service exemption
Birth certificate
Exhibit I Page 1 - List of Stolen Items

http://www.aclu.org/projects/foiasearch/pdf/DOD045924.pdf


87 posted on 10/30/2006 6:13:57 PM PST by Freedom is eternally right
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To: Fred911
"Hossam Shaltout, an Egyptian peace activist and president of Rights and Freedom International, He announced that he will be running for President of Egypt in the upcoming election."

Ha, ha ha! What's next? President of the Universe? The guy is a loon.

88 posted on 10/30/2006 6:18:37 PM PST by FreedomCalls (It's the "Statue of Liberty," not the "Statue of Security.")
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To: FreedomCalls
And yet, he is quoted in a NY Times article:
"There is nothing new in this speech, and even if there is, he won't do it," said Osama Shaltout, who is active in politics and is the director of the Organization for Rights and Freedom International. "If he wants to abolish the emergency law, why didn't he do this a long time ago? He is saying this now so he can get the chance to rig the elections because he wouldn't win in a real free and fair elections."
Mubarak Starts Bid for 5th Term Like a Western Politician
89 posted on 10/30/2006 6:42:26 PM PST by Freedom is eternally right
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To: Mr. Brightside
I've also heard that Saddam bought a bridge in Brooklyn.
90 posted on 10/30/2006 6:43:30 PM PST by rintense (Liberals stand for nothing and are against everything- unless it benefits them.)
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To: Mr. Brightside

What a lie.


91 posted on 10/30/2006 6:45:04 PM PST by bmwcyle (Only stupid people would vote for McCain, Warner, Hagle, Snowe, Graham, or any RINO)
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To: Mr. Brightside

Just another instance of many stalling efforts by Saddam Hussein.


92 posted on 10/30/2006 7:10:45 PM PST by ViLaLuz (Stop the ACLU - Support the Public Expression of Religion Act 2005 - Call your congressmen.)
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To: Mr. Brightside

Thank you bump.


93 posted on 10/30/2006 7:14:40 PM PST by UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide (Give Them Liberty Or Give Them Death! - IT'S ISLAM, STUPID! - Islam Delenda Est! - Rumble thee forth)
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To: Mr. Brightside

"...and an obsessive desire for death."

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I think that might be muzzie-talk...


94 posted on 10/30/2006 10:16:21 PM PST by Fred Nerks ("Illegitimi non carborundum",)
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To: Mr. Brightside

Hossam Shaltout (Image via Summer's Daydreams) LAVoice.org is not LAVoice.com, and never the twain shall meet - without a lease - says Hossam Shaltout.

As our own Perry Crowe pointed out Monday, LAVoice.com resolves to a static page for an Arabic newspaper, Allahab.com. As I pointed out in comments, that domain has belonged to Shaltout since at least 2002, when I first started building this site.

And as Marc Salvatierra pointed out in a later comment, Shaltout might be the same Egyptian-born Canadian citizen who was captured in Iraq by U.S. soldiers, accused of being a speechwriter for Saddam Hussein and then allegedly tortured by U.S. special forces.

Well, he is that man ...

I wrote to the tech-contact email address for LAVoice.com yesterday, and Shaltout e-mailed back confirming his identity.

He also said (quite courteously) that he would only lease the LAVoice.com name to me since he doesn't plan to sell it.

Ah, well. As I said the other day, people don't seem to have any trouble finding us at the dot-org address.

Meanwhile, Googling "Hossam Shaltout" turns up some pretty interesting background on him. I'd be curious to know what LAVoice.org users make of it all:

- His arrest in April, 2003 by U.S. forces. haltout had gone to Iraq before the war on behalf of a group called Rights and Freedom International, hoping to persuade Iraqi leaders to step down but instead he was arrested and taken to Camp Bucca. - His release from detention in April, 2004

- His charges of torture against the U.S. government: Shaltout says he was arrested by US soldiers outside his hotel in Baghdad during a riot in April 2003, and taken to the Bucca detention facility in Umm Qasr, southern Iraq. He had travelled to Iraq on behalf of his peace group "Rights and Freedom International" in a bid to convince Iraqi leaders to step down to avoid a war with the United States.

After he was taken to Bucca in an armoured personnel carrier, Shaltout claims he was subjected to a daily diet of interrogation and torture.

Right-hand man

"Mr Shaltout was accused of being both a speechwriter for Saddam Hussein as well as his 'right-hand man,'" said Shaltout's Portland, Oregon-based lawyer Thomas Nelson in the complaint lodged with the US Army last week.

"When Mr Shaltout refused to confess, he was beaten in a variety of ways - he was hit with open hands, fists, shoes, and gun butts.

"The most alarming form of torture was when the interrogators put gun muzzles at his head or body, which put Mr. Shaltout in great fear of imminent death."

Shaltout, who is in Saudi Arabia and could not be immediately contacted Wednesday claims that he was kneed in the groin and hit about the face while in leg irons and handcuffs after he launched a hunger strike.

He is claiming $350 000 in damages, claiming he now suffers depression, post traumatic stress disorder and other physical and mental ailments. - And his announcement last July that he is campaigning to become president of Egypt. Hossam Shaltout, an Egyptian peace activist and president of Rights and Freedom International, He announced that he will be running for President of Egypt in the upcoming election. “I think that the time has come for reform in Egypt, and I know that I'm the person to accomplish it, " he said at a press conference ..

Shaltout, a successful businessman, is a 58-year old graduate from Cairo University's Aerospace engineering school. His extensive international experience positions him well to guide Egypt in the future. Shaltout has lived in Canada and the United States, and thus understands Western culture thoroughly. He risked both his financial and his personal health in attempting to prevent America from attacking Iraq in 2003; indeed, as a result he was mistakenly arrested, detained, and tortured by American forces in Iraq.

Shaltout has an aggressive agenda that would pull Egypt out of its economic and political slump. Among his campaign

Shaltout stated that Egypt is in crisis and that new leadership is needed. "It's time for us all to work for a better future for ourselves and, more important, for our children. My presidency will result in that better future," he said during his news conference

Thoughts, anyone?

http://lavoice.org/index.php?name=News&file=article&sid=1528

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Just another lying muzzie scum.

95 posted on 10/30/2006 10:26:51 PM PST by Fred Nerks ("Illegitimi non carborundum",)
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To: Mr. Brightside
Big deal. Sadaam personally told me to tell Bush that if we sent over 500,000 Big Macs then he would cough up all his WMD's and let the inspectors back onto the job.

I was going to try and pass that along to the President, but I had too much of a hangover the next day and couldn't get out of bed. I think the CIA spiked my Jack Daniels to prevent the offer from being delivered. I think I'll write a book on this.

96 posted on 10/30/2006 10:33:38 PM PST by Cementjungle (Loads of folks will be shocked when they find that GWB isn't running this year)
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To: Cementjungle
yeah...but are you: a successful businessman, a 58-year old graduate from Cairo University's Aerospace engineering school. And have you: extensive international experience positioning you: well to guide Egypt in the future. And have you: lived in Canada and the United States, and do you: understand Western culture thoroughly. ???? SmileyCentral.com
97 posted on 10/30/2006 10:43:37 PM PST by Fred Nerks ("Illegitimi non carborundum",)
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To: FreedomCalls
BS. If this were true, Saddam could have gone on Iraqi TV and made that announcement instead of sending some other person to catch a flight to make the announcement on a foreign news show. It's laughable on the face of it.

Correct. Saddam also had CNN on his leash and they would have carried his message in a moment.

98 posted on 10/31/2006 5:13:14 AM PST by Ditto
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To: Mr. Brightside

We can believe him, but not the Iraqi general who said that the WMD were moved to Syria.


99 posted on 10/31/2006 5:15:53 AM PST by kabar
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To: Mr. Brightside

A press release, written by the subject of the story itself? Ridiculous. This is not news...

Although Yahoo should make it easier for gullible people to identify the source... so many people will see this and think "it's on yahoo news - it must be true". It they are going to publish this crap at all, it should have a big disclaimer on the top explaining that it's NOT journalism.


100 posted on 11/01/2006 6:53:21 AM PST by pangenesis (Legalize freedom - vote libertarian!)
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