America 2050: A Nation of Turtles

HumanEventsOnline ^ | October 20, 2006 | Patrick J. Buchanan

[FReepapalooza]

The first two, the third, everyone does. lol

[Rick Deckard]

I come here mostly to learn & not to argue with people I generally agree with. I find that "he/she-who-shall-not-be-named" to be more amusing than irritating nowadays.

In the long run, there are bigger fish to fry.

[FReepapalooza]

You know who we mean. lol, We know what you mean, you are one of many.

[Rick Deckard]

"he/she-who-shall-not-be-named"?

[Nathan Zachary]

America 2050:

Is most likely to look like this:

[Luis Gonzalez]

"We have 300 million here today only because the government of the United States refuses to enforce our immigration laws and the people were misled or lied to when the Immigration Act of 1965 was passed."

Wrong Pat, we have 300 million today, rather than say a decade ago, because the government legalized the killing of the unbrn in the name of "choice."

By the way...someone needs to gently tap Pat on the shoulder, and remind him that the calculation used to arrive at this figure of 300 million AMERICANS did not take into account illegal aliens on the soil, any more than it did tourists.

Pat's irelevant.

[Earthdweller]

Buchanan smells like an old antisemitic shoe.

[Luis Gonzalez]

Awww...do the regular 'mericans kill no cops, molest kids, or rape women?

Or are you only pissed off about the one killed, molested, and raped the fruit pickers?

Point me to the segment of the population free of cop killers, child molesters and rapists.

That line of yours is so old.

[Lurker]

That line of yours is so old.

And yours is complete bullsh**.

We have enough thieves, murderers, rapists, and child molesters of our own to deal with. We aren't Mexicos garbage dump.

Apparently you do think we have enough thieves, murderers, rapists, etc and they need to be imported from any 2nd world open toilet that happens to share a border with us.

Thanks but no thanks.

Mexicos garbage should stay in Mexico.

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[Luis Gonzalez]

Every race, every nationality, every religion, every age has killers, rapists, and child molesters.

You can try using that bull$hit line on the rubes, but it don't play with the rest.

We weren't Italy's garbage dump, but the mobsters came anyway...we didn't qualify all Italians based on the actions of their riff raff.

Thank God people like you did not qualify MY people based on the actions of the garbage Fidel dumped on our shores under Carter.

[Lurker]

Awww...do the regular 'mericans kill no cops

Explain your position to this guy:

But you're going to have to talk really, really loud. Some piece of trash here illegally shot him in the head during a traffic stop.

Unless of course you're actually going to try to make the lame ass argument that if a piece of Mexicos garbage hadn't killed him, some American would have.

Then there's this piece of filth:

I'm sure the 8 people he murdered would all have been whacked by other Americans if he'd only stayed in Mexico where he belonged.

But what the hell is a few dead Americans when you've got tomatoes you need picked. A few corpses is a small price to pay to put some dollars in the pockets of your friends.

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[Lurker]

Every race, every nationality, every religion, every age has killers, rapists, and child molesters.

So you're actually suggesting we import them. Amazing.

We weren't Italy's garbage dump, but the mobsters came anyway...

We deported a bunch of them, too.

Thank God people like you did not qualify MY people based on the actions of the garbage Fidel dumped on our shores under Carter.

Your people benefited from the "Cuban One Foot Law".

You can try using that bull$hit line on the rubes, but it don't play with the rest.

Tell it to Officer Johnsons widow and kids pal.

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[Luis Gonzalez]

Inasmuch as conventional theories of crime and incarceration predict higher rates for young adult males from ethnic minority groups with lower educational attainment — characteristics which describe a much greater proportion of the foreign-born population than of the native born — it follows that immigrants would be expected to have higher incarceration rates than natives. And immigrant Mexican men — who comprise fully a third of all immigrant men between 18 and 39, and who have the lowest levels of education — would be expected to have the highest rates.

Data from the 5 percent Public Use Microsample (PUMS) of the 2000 census were used to measure the institutionalization rates of immigrants and natives, focusing on males 18 to 39, most of whom are in correctional facilities. Of the 45.2 million males age 18 to 39, three percent were in federal or state prisons or local jails at the time of the 2000 census — a total of over 1.3 million, in line with official prison statistics at that time.

Surprisingly, at least from the vantage of conventional wisdom, the data show the above hypotheses to be unfounded. In fact, the incarceration rate of the US born (3.51 percent) was four times the rate of the foreign born (0.86 percent). The foreign-born rate was half the 1.71 percent rate for non-Hispanic white natives, and 13 times less than the 11.6 percent incarceration rate for native black men (see Table 1). Source.

[Luis Gonzalez]

Would the widow Johnson be happier if her husband had been killed by a native-born, tenth generation hoodlum, as it is the case with 99% of every LEO killed in the line of duty?

Or are we supposed to feel less for the other officers and more for Officer Johnson becase you dislike Mexican killers more than you dislike your own?

Playing for the emotional vote?

I would have thought that to be below you.

[Lurker]

Would the widow Johnson be happier

You're actually suggesting that Officer Johnson would have been killed by someone else. Truly amazing.

you dislike Mexican killers more than you dislike your own?

I dislike anyone who murders. I especially dislike murderers who are here in this country illegally. Apparently importing murderers is ok with you.

Sad.

Playing for the emotional vote?

I'm not playing. Apparently you don't think we have enough dead cops and think we need to bring in trash from other countries to up the numbers.

I would have thought that to be below you.

You don't seem to think at all.

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[Luis Gonzalez]

"We deported a bunch of them, too."

Please, Lucky Luciano worked for the Federal government...what about the widows of the cops killed by his mob?

Was he deported?

He should have been executed.

[Luis Gonzalez]

"Apparently importing murderers is ok with you."

Actually, the only apparent thing here is that you seem to object more to being killed by a non-native, than by a native...I object to both, and unlike you, I don't place less weight on the crime of murder based on the nationality or immigration status of the killer.

[Lurker]

I'm sure if Resendez hadn't done it, some American would have clubbed and shotgunned Mr. Morber and his daughter to death.

I'm sure if Resendez hadn't done it, some American would have shoved a gardening implement into Mrs. Konvickas skull.

I'm sure if Resendez hadn't done it, some American would have raped and clubbed to death Miss Domingeuz.

Yep. No doubt about it. All these people would be dead anyway. God wanted them dead and Resendez just happened to be His instrument. Yea, that's the ticket.

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[Lurker]

Lucky Luciano worked for the Federal government

Luciano was deported in 1946. Get your facts straight.

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[Lurker]

I don't place less weight on the crime of murder based on the nationality or immigration status of the killer

You sure don't seem to have much of a problem with those murderers being in this country illegally. But hey, getting those tomatoes picked...now that's what's important.

Too bad about all those dead people. Well that's just the price you pay for cheap vegetables these days. As long as your friends are making money, that's what matters.

Right old buddy?

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