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Did we plough up the Garden of Eden?
First Post ^ | October 17, 2006

Posted on 10/17/2006 6:10:35 AM PDT by NYer

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To: sandyeggo

There is an email that went around that perpetuated this myth. If I get some time, I'll post the link to the discussion of the email...


81 posted on 10/17/2006 1:29:41 PM PDT by Kaylee Frye
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To: blam
Thanks again, Blam. I'll put that on my holiday book list.

I have a daughter who wants to be an archaeologist. Looks like she'll need scuba lessons, too. :-)

82 posted on 10/17/2006 1:35:18 PM PDT by colorado tanker
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To: Radix

Abraham's home was Ur of the Chaldees. I believe that was in the area known as modern day Iraq.


83 posted on 10/17/2006 1:35:39 PM PDT by gregwest
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To: Vicomte13


Soaking acorns is no biggie.

A lot depends on where a person or group ends up in the survival situation and how much history they have there. The situation for gatherer societies is one of having lived there for millennia. They know the food water and shelter resources.

Oh, and making fire is only hard if you don't know the correct woods and techniques to use. There are websites nowadays for that, but back then there were the older folk.


84 posted on 10/17/2006 1:36:23 PM PDT by From many - one.
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To: beckysueb

Iraq's legendary Garden of Eden marsh faces restoration

http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/iraq/2005-02-19-garden-of-eden_x.htm


Garden of Eden is a barren concrete jungle


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml;jsessionid=1DBGPPPYB3XQNQFIQMFSFF4AVCBQ0IV0?xml=/news/2002/10/28/wiraq128.xml


85 posted on 10/17/2006 1:37:12 PM PDT by MaineVoter2002 (If you dont vote on election day, then who are you electing?)
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To: All

The Garden of Eden has "Down with America" sprayed across its battered wall and the Tree of Life died many years ago. Every inch of grass in the biblical birthplace of mankind has been covered with chipped, concrete flagstones....



In fact, the Garden contains five small trees, none of which sprout any fruit. One has a green cloth tied to a branch, identifying it as the Tree of Life...


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml;jsessionid=1DBGPPPYB3XQNQFIQMFSFF4AVCBQ0IV0?xml=/news/2002/10/28/wiraq128.xml


86 posted on 10/17/2006 1:42:07 PM PDT by MaineVoter2002 (If you dont vote on election day, then who are you electing?)
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To: sandyeggo
Found the website I was looking for:

http://www.crivoice.org/urbanlegend.html

87 posted on 10/17/2006 1:46:52 PM PDT by Kaylee Frye
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To: NYer
By comparison, Stonehenge dates from 2,000BC.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1721043/posts

The 5,000-year-old stones on Salisbury Plain, Wiltshire,

Someone's wrong, give or take a thousand years.....

88 posted on 10/17/2006 1:54:49 PM PDT by Lijahsbubbe
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To: NYer
Perhaps they were grieving for their lost innocence.

Sounds like a legitimate concern for ancient people.

89 posted on 10/17/2006 2:00:52 PM PDT by Cowboy Bob (Liberalism in a parasite that ALWAYS kills its host.)
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To: DBrow

"The story of King David is about switching from a nomadic life to one of agriculture"

The story of King David was one of his being part of a shepherd family, then anointed King because Saul had lost God's favor, but not yet able to take kingship becauese he was being hunted by Saul who wanted to kill him. David killed Goliath which raised his stature with the people, thus raising Saul's jealousy! That was the reason for David's earlier wanderings.


90 posted on 10/17/2006 2:07:52 PM PDT by mdmathis6 (Proof against evolution:"Man is the only creature that blushes, or needs to" M.Twain)
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To: gregwest
"Abraham's home was Ur of the Chaldees. I believe that was in the area known as modern day Iraq."

When Abraham lived there it was a seaside town. Today it is about 100 miles inland. (Silting) BTW, during the Ice Age, the Persian Gulf was completely dry.

91 posted on 10/17/2006 2:12:26 PM PDT by blam
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To: TeĆ³filo

"there's a lot of red dirt"

Significant because the name ADAM means literally "man of red mud"! Red dirt has much iron oxide in it!

Interesting enough, the heme molecule that allows the binding of oxygen to red blood cells has iron as its main element. "And God formed man from the dust"....

Who says the Bible has no science in it?!


92 posted on 10/17/2006 2:15:04 PM PDT by mdmathis6 (Proof against evolution:"Man is the only creature that blushes, or needs to" M.Twain)
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To: mdmathis6

So his people were nomadic and eventually wound up settled in one place?


93 posted on 10/17/2006 2:40:58 PM PDT by DBrow
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To: DBrow

His folks shephereded near the town of Bethlehem, that was their home base though I'm sure they wandered from hillside to valley in that region as the weather and grass dictated. Bethelehem was called the "city of David" in later OT, and the NT states that was where Jesus was born.

As for his later wanderings running from King Saul, he traveled with a band of fellow mercenaries, even hiring himself out to a Philistine king for a time.


94 posted on 10/17/2006 2:59:28 PM PDT by mdmathis6 (Proof against evolution:"Man is the only creature that blushes, or needs to" M.Twain)
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To: twigs

Well, there're no mountains around Basra or Babylon. Both areas are flat as a table. Hot enough to go nekkid though : )


97 posted on 10/17/2006 4:07:46 PM PDT by Justa (Politically Correct is morally wrong.)
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To: SunkenCiv

Methinks that animal might be a cat...


While ancient Egypt provides the first written record of cats, a burial discovered on Cyprus indicates humans and felines may have become associated much earlier.

... Jean-Denis Vigne of the National Museum of Natural History in Paris believes the relationship first blossomed with the development of agricultural societies 10,000 or so years ago.

"It seems that cats probably came more and more frequently into villages where grain stocks attracted numerous mice," said Vigne.

http://www.snappingturtle.net/gigantichound/archives/004162.html


98 posted on 10/17/2006 4:10:52 PM PDT by Fred Nerks ("Illegitimi non carborundum",)
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To: SunkenCiv
Another theory:

The area thought to be the Garden of Eden, which was flooded when Gulf waters arose, is shown in green. Yellow areas of Bahrain and Arabian coast represent Dilmun, paradise land of Ubaidians and Sumerians

http://www.ldolphin.org/eden/

100 posted on 10/17/2006 4:56:07 PM PDT by Fred Nerks ("Illegitimi non carborundum",)
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