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Fossil Remains Show The Merging Of Neandertals, Modern Humans
Washington University ^
| 10-12-2006
| Neil Schoenherr
Posted on 10/12/2006 11:22:03 AM PDT by blam
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101
posted on
10/12/2006 8:29:02 PM PDT
by
Coyoteman
(I love the sound of beta decay in the morning!)
To: Coyoteman
I think you are resisting the obvious. Most of what we know, certainly our world view, we owe to others. Speaking of the available literature, most mavericks don't get published, don't get hired, don't get tenure.
102
posted on
10/12/2006 8:30:44 PM PDT
by
RobbyS
( CHIRHO)
To: RobbyS
I think you are resisting the obvious. Most of what we know, certainly our world view, we owe to others. Speaking of the available literature, most mavericks don't get published, don't get hired, don't get tenure. In most cases its richly deserved.
But if their ideas are supported by data, they get through eventually. Evidence always wins out.
Out for the night.
103
posted on
10/12/2006 8:35:36 PM PDT
by
Coyoteman
(I love the sound of beta decay in the morning!)
To: Coyoteman
But if their ideas are supported by data, they get through eventually Usually posthumously. It took two generations for the evidence to prove Galileo right. Schlaft gut.
104
posted on
10/12/2006 8:45:36 PM PDT
by
RobbyS
( CHIRHO)
To: blam
and my usual...
The Neandertal Enigma
by James Shreeve
Frayer's own reading of the record reveals a number of overlooked traits that clearly and specifically link the Neandertals to the Cro-Magnons. One such trait is the shape of the opening of the nerve canal in the lower jaw, a spot where dentists often give a pain-blocking injection. In many Neandertal, the upper portion of the opening is covered by a broad bony ridge, a curious feature also carried by a significant number of Cro-Magnons. But none of the alleged 'ancestors of us all' fossils from Africa have it, and it is extremely rare in modern people outside Europe." [pp 126-127]
105
posted on
10/12/2006 11:05:44 PM PDT
by
SunkenCiv
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To: blam; FairOpinion; StayAt HomeMother; Ernest_at_the_Beach; 24Karet; 3AngelaD; ...
106
posted on
10/12/2006 11:06:05 PM PDT
by
SunkenCiv
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To: blam
I get it also, it's a new thing, presumably to keep everyone from going hog wild with the humorous and allegedly humorous keywords. Next we need a keyword filter, or a clickable list of common keywords plus the box, and maybe a spellcheck. :')
107
posted on
10/12/2006 11:09:52 PM PDT
by
SunkenCiv
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To: theFIRMbss
108
posted on
10/12/2006 11:17:59 PM PDT
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SunkenCiv
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To: blam
109
posted on
10/12/2006 11:23:03 PM PDT
by
Dustbunny
(The BIBLE - Basic Instructions Before Leaving Earth)
To: NautiNurse
110
posted on
10/12/2006 11:23:57 PM PDT
by
Dustbunny
(The BIBLE - Basic Instructions Before Leaving Earth)
To: flintsilver7
Nikolai Valuev...now there's a living fossil!
111
posted on
10/13/2006 12:44:10 AM PDT
by
Fred Nerks
("Illegitimi non carborundum",)
To: patton
You really should post a pic! LOL
To: Ichneumon
It's quite possible that an isolated population of Neandertal and modern humans interbred, and that this population left fossils that are discussed in the current paper, but that this population died out and did not leave descendants to present day, while other "unhybridized" modern humans of the same period thrived and left us as descendants. Would it have been at all possible that this interbreeding of human/neanderthals produced only sterile offspring like mules?
To: RobbyS
There is a German geneticist who has begun the sequencing of the Neanderthal. Preliminary results suprised him in that he expected to see more overlap with modern humans. His conclusion: separate species.
114
posted on
10/13/2006 5:23:51 AM PDT
by
Tallguy
To: blam
Every DNA study so far has flatly ruled out any contribution of neanderthals to the genome of modern man. We simply aren't related to apes or hominids.
115
posted on
10/13/2006 5:55:54 AM PDT
by
tomzz
To: RobbyS
It still points up that no scientist human is an objective observer. However science, yes including "evolution," has -- for instance by encouraging adversarial debate and rewarding the falsification of prevailing theory -- achieved a higher level of collective objectivity than probably any other area of human inquiry.
116
posted on
10/13/2006 6:23:56 AM PDT
by
Stultis
To: tomzz
Every DNA study so far has flatly ruled out any contribution of neanderthals to the genome of modern man. We simply aren't related to apes or hominids. You keep making the same simple mistake, thinking that if we are not closely related to Neanderthal that we have no link to earlier hominids.
There was a split some 350-400,000 years ago, and our line went one way while Neanderthal went another. That fact that we are not closely related to Neanderthal does not mean we have no antecedents!
117
posted on
10/13/2006 7:38:06 AM PDT
by
Coyoteman
(I love the sound of beta decay in the morning!)
To: Stultis
However, scientists tend to break their arms patting themselves on the back for their accomplishments, forgetting that they themselves are not immune to the famous deadly vices. They work quite comfortably with the likes of Hitler and, on a more mundane level willing to lie, cheat and steal just steal just like the milkman. As for Popper's notion, I find Heisenberg's uncertainly principle a more practical guide. Once we start measuring, we move the bar. The further we look into space, the less we see at one time.
118
posted on
10/13/2006 7:59:03 AM PDT
by
RobbyS
( CHIRHO)
To: Coyoteman
I am willing to stipulate a split, but was it really that long ago? Are you thinking in terms of a thousand generations of "genetic drift" or something like that? Maybe it came suddenly as a result of isolation and inbreeding?
119
posted on
10/13/2006 8:04:04 AM PDT
by
RobbyS
( CHIRHO)
To: blam
Now I know why I don't find those insurance commericals on TV so funny either.
120
posted on
10/13/2006 8:04:54 AM PDT
by
ZULU
(Non nobis, non nobis, Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam. God, guts, and guns made America great.)
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