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Foley Claims He Was Molested by Clergyman When He Was a Teen
FoxNews ^ | 10/3/06 | FoxNews

Posted on 10/03/2006 3:22:32 PM PDT by ableLight

Edited on 10/03/2006 3:55:08 PM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

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To: ableLight

Too freakin' bad. My dad died when I was 15 and we lost our home. Does that get me a free pass if I want to commit a felony?


201 posted on 10/03/2006 4:39:27 PM PDT by pabianice
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To: ableLight
Tomorrow, Foley's lawyer will announce that his client also suffers from the heartbreak of psoriasis...

Foley is a liar and a coward. The fact that this whole scandal is unfolding is proof positive that homosexuals are demented people who prize young flesh above all else.
The Republicans are well rid of him and that shows that they won't tolerate a Studds or Franks at all. Better than the Dems every did for this country.
202 posted on 10/03/2006 4:40:37 PM PDT by ishabibble (ALL-AMERICAN INFIDEL)
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To: Howlin
Where is the crime here? Can somebody tell me where the crime is if the facts are as we know them now, that he IM'd boys of legal age?

Legal age in DC, but not necessarily in VA or MD. Where did Foley live, where did the pages live. I heard today that the pages were *not* at work during all this IMing and emailing. Might be a federal charge there as well as a local charge.

But if nothing else, its no different, aside from the homosexual aspect, which itself might have been a crime at the time in one of the applicable jurisdictions, than a President doing the interns, which the Dems thought just fine and dandy, but now, well it's a different ox being gored.

203 posted on 10/03/2006 4:40:54 PM PDT by El Gato
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To: ableLight

Now are we going to go back to the Catholic Church homo priests to blame for Foley's perversions? This is all old stuff and I don't think the American public is going to be swayed by it.


204 posted on 10/03/2006 4:41:30 PM PDT by conservative blonde (Conservative Blonde)
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To: dennisw; VictoryGal
I live south of Foley's district and knew he was gay. The local talk show said as much. His voting record was good

Who the heck are you talking about??

Foley is pro-abortion and pro-gay rights.

205 posted on 10/03/2006 4:42:06 PM PDT by JohnnyZ ("I respect and will protect a woman's right to choose" -- Mitt Romney, April 2002)
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To: sitetest
However, Mr. Foley pushed hard for legislation that makes a felony out of prurient communications via the Internet with anyone under the age of 18.

Thus, chatting about it over the Internet appears to be a felony, but actually doing it is not.


Please provide a cite for this supposed federal law. I've looked for it, but don't think it exists. There's a Florida law that appears to be pretty much on point, if Foley sent IMs from Florida, though.
206 posted on 10/03/2006 4:43:04 PM PDT by conservative in nyc
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To: Jeff Chandler

Add Handicapped midget, and you've got an untouchable.


207 posted on 10/03/2006 4:43:23 PM PDT by hollywood (Stay on topic, please.)
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To: ableLight

"Foley Claims He Was Molested by Clergyman"

Good!


208 posted on 10/03/2006 4:43:28 PM PDT by bilhosty (to hell with ABCNNBCBS)
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To: sappy
Foley, you've done enough damage, don't try and indict the Church as well.

His lawyers are probably researching to find a deceased priest who can't defend himself against the accusation. Forty years ago -- BS sympathy plea.

209 posted on 10/03/2006 4:44:43 PM PDT by JohnnyZ ("I respect and will protect a woman's right to choose" -- Mitt Romney, April 2002)
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To: hollywood
Add Handicapped midget, and you've got an untouchable.

Left-handed?

210 posted on 10/03/2006 4:46:53 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Peace begins in the womb.)
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To: ableLight

"Let's see- I blame it on alcohol, and they still hate me. Hmm- I was abused by a clergyman as a youth! That's it! Now they HAVE to feel sorry for me... right??"


211 posted on 10/03/2006 4:47:44 PM PDT by richmwill
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To: Howlin
I'm not sure naughty talk on the Internet is necessarily federal crime, unless the person then crosses state lines with the intent of having sex with a minor (or there are some pictures involved). But there's a Florida law on point:

847.0138 Transmission of material harmful to minors to a minor by electronic device or equipment prohibited; penalties.--

(1) For purposes of this section:

(a) "Known by the defendant to be a minor" means that the defendant had actual knowledge or believed that the recipient of the communication was a minor.

(b) "Transmit" means to send to a specific individual known by the defendant to be a minor via electronic mail.

(2) Notwithstanding ss. 847.012 and 847.0133, any person in this state who knew or believed that he or she was transmitting an image, information, or data that is harmful to minors, as defined in s. 847.001, to a specific individual known by the defendant to be a minor in this state commits a felony of the third degree, punishable as provided in s. 775.082, s. 775.083, or s. 775.084.

(3) Notwithstanding ss. 847.012 and 847.0133, any person in any jurisdiction other than this state who knew or believed that he or she was transmitting an image, information, or data that is harmful to minors, as defined in s. 847.001, to a specific individual known by the defendant to be a minor in this state commits a felony of the third degree, punishable as provided in s. 775.082, s. 775.083, or s. 775.084.

The provisions of this section do not apply to subscription-based transmissions such as list servers.

847.001 Definitions.--As used in this chapter, the term:

(6) "Harmful to minors" means any reproduction, imitation, characterization, description, exhibition, presentation, or representation, of whatever kind or form, depicting nudity, sexual conduct, or sexual excitement when it:

(a) Predominantly appeals to the prurient, shameful, or morbid interest of minors;

(b) Is patently offensive to prevailing standards in the adult community as a whole with respect to what is suitable material for minors; and

(c) Taken as a whole, is without serious literary, artistic, political, or scientific value for minors.

A mother's breastfeeding of her baby is not under any circumstance "harmful to minors."

(8) "Minor" means any person under the age of 18 years.
212 posted on 10/03/2006 4:47:45 PM PDT by conservative in nyc
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To: ableLight
He probably was molested as a child. I think that is how most child molestation propagates. I don't believe that all victims of child molestation become molesters, but I am sure most molesters were molested.

Now, we have the creep who killed those children in the Amish community. He claims he molested some children when he was young. With the anger he has shown, it is likely he was the one who was molested.

Child molestation is the crime that keeps on giving - or taking away innocent lives. The best way to stop it is to execute pedophiles -regardless of if the were victimized - in order to stop the cancer.

213 posted on 10/03/2006 4:48:17 PM PDT by FreeAtlanta (Search for Folding Project - Join FR Team 36120)
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To: ableLight
You'd think he could be a bit more victimless.
214 posted on 10/03/2006 4:48:33 PM PDT by boomop1 (there you go again)
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To: conservative in nyc

The Adam Walsh Child Protection And Safety Act Of 2006
H.R. 4472

Note cannot be retroactive.


215 posted on 10/03/2006 4:49:43 PM PDT by gb63
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To: JohnnyZ
Foley is pro-abortion and pro-gay rights.

He was not pro gay or anti gay. I don't know his abortion policies

216 posted on 10/03/2006 4:50:49 PM PDT by dennisw (Confucius say man who go through turnstile sideways going to Bangkok)
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To: sitetest
However, Mr. Foley pushed hard for legislation that makes a felony out of prurient communications via the Internet with anyone under the age of 18.

Overcompensating? If he was that insecure about his masculinity, why couldn't he just punch people out in a bar or diddle interns in the office like other latent homosexuals?

217 posted on 10/03/2006 4:50:59 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Peace begins in the womb.)
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To: conservative in nyc

But which state law would apply? The law where the message originated (FL) or the state where it was received (LA or CA)?


218 posted on 10/03/2006 4:51:07 PM PDT by McGavin999
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To: ableLight

Cry me a river. Bad behavior doesn't excuse more bad behavior.


219 posted on 10/03/2006 4:51:24 PM PDT by conservative in nyc
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To: Dianna

Howlin,

Just because something is not a crime does not mean that is is also not morally repugnant.

The guy is disgusting.

I took you on defending Foley in another post. You don't think its weird that he wants to diddle boys even though he is a man; and that he is going after kids?

Does that need to be a crime before you get upset? Is that your brand of conservatism? It sure as heck isn't mind. Somethings are just wrong and this Foley incident is one of them!


220 posted on 10/03/2006 4:52:04 PM PDT by EternalPatriot (I put my country before the letters R or D. USA FOREVER)
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