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Tancredo: 'I Don't Trust the President' on Border Security
CNSNews.com ^ | September 22, 2006 | Kevin Mooney

Posted on 09/22/2006 7:43:18 AM PDT by Dane

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To: Youngman442002

Here is what we are getting.....notice the "in Spanish" comment.....He doesn't speak English and he has lived here how long..and with how many kids?????


CASTLE ROCK - A somber-looking man stared at a picture of his smiling brother Thursday and was forced to ponder the unimaginable: that the man in the photo could be capable of one of the most horrendous killings in this city's history.
"I feel like my life is going to change," said Victor Rubi-Nava, 25.

His brother, Jose Luis Rubi-Nava, was arrested Wednesday for investigation of first-degree murder. The 36-year-old man is suspected of tying a rope around a woman's neck and dragging her behind his car for more than a mile early Monday on a rural road in the Surrey Ridge subdivision.

"Everything is so complicated, I don't know what to think," Victor Rubi-Nava said during an interview in Spanish.


61 posted on 09/22/2006 8:43:49 AM PDT by Youngman442002
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To: Youngman442002

Here is the link..

http://www.rockymountainnews.com/drmn/local/article/0,1299,DRMN_15_5012965,00.html


62 posted on 09/22/2006 8:45:03 AM PDT by Youngman442002
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To: Howard Jarvis Admirer
I don't think any of these people actually trust Bush to protect the Border. But many of them do trust that he won't protect it and that illegal immigration will therefore continue at its rapid pace. That's why they turn immediately to ad hominem, straw men, equivocation, etc when confronted on the topic.
63 posted on 09/22/2006 8:46:33 AM PDT by ruination ((Free Republic is Currently Suffering a Pandemic of “Open Borders Derangement Syndrome.”))
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To: Dane
Mahmood and Ali can pass themselves off as Jose and Pedro and enter the country. As porous as this nation's borders are, this is a clear threat. Apart from the terrorist issue, the United States has the authority and duty to control the border and set the terms for those who would enter. For several decades, the Federal government has failed in this matter.
64 posted on 09/22/2006 8:46:42 AM PDT by Wallace T.
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To: cripplecreek
It's ironic that for a conservative web site, the conservative solution to illegal immigration is rarely mentioned. It appears that one is either for a rigid (pun intended) state imposed solution or is willing to ignore the issue while pursuing a larger agenda (ie WoT, 2006 elections, etc).

Notwithstanding current law & this and prior administrations' lack of enforcement, the 'purest' conservative solution is the open market. Illegal immigration has grown in proportion to our 5 year economic expansion, and will deflate in the face of the next recession.

Our opportunity is merely to enforce existing laws regarding identification & employment and pursue lawbreakers to facilitate normal market mechanisms. Already, we're beginning to see reports of businesses losing entire work forces under the first whispers of crackdowns. This will only accelerate as unemployment numbers creep up in the next recession.

The key is enforcement of employment ID laws & self-deportation. We don't need to stinkin' fence or amnesty.

65 posted on 09/22/2006 8:49:35 AM PDT by Chuck Dent
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To: MNJohnnie

Love your tag-line!
http://www.anncoulter.com/cgi-local/article.cgi?article=115


66 posted on 09/22/2006 8:50:38 AM PDT by tumblindice (close the damn border)
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To: Wallace T.
Mahmood and Ali can pass themselves off as Jose and Pedro and enter the country.

As they try to pass themselves off as Mexicans by praying towards mecca 5 times in Matamoros(a 99.5% Christian city), when it is much easier for them to do that in Toronto, which has a vastly larger ilsmofascist sleeper enclave.

67 posted on 09/22/2006 8:50:47 AM PDT by Dane ("Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall" Ronald Reagan, 1987)
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To: Dane
Can anybody say meglomaniac nutball(i.e tom tancredo, ala nancy pelosi, hugo chavez, etc.etc.).

That's not the word that comes to mind. But then, I know him. He's a great guy and a smart, principled, small-government conservative. You couldn't ask for a better congresscritter.

68 posted on 09/22/2006 8:50:55 AM PDT by ModelBreaker
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To: standingfirm
I just think Tancredo is a principled guy. He's one of the few in congress who are not caving just to get some sort of a bill passed. I admire that.

So, I'm assuming then you also admire McCain?

69 posted on 09/22/2006 8:52:57 AM PDT by pollyannaish
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To: ModelBreaker
That's not the word that comes to mind. But then, I know him. He's a great guy and a smart, principled, small-government conservative. You couldn't ask for a better congresscritter.

Whatever floats your boat, BTW, what do you think of his(tancredo's) breaking his initial 1998 campaign promise of only running for 3 US House terms.

70 posted on 09/22/2006 8:54:04 AM PDT by Dane ("Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall" Ronald Reagan, 1987)
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To: MNJohnnie
So we have a New McCain butt clown here. Hey Tommy, better go see what happened to your hero in the Senate when he tried being a "maverick". Sit down and shut up. This is NO time for your personal political ego to be getting in the way.

(sarcasm)Sure Tom. Doncha know you are to sit their & but into EVERYTHING the pubbie leaders say. Be a supporter of our outlandish spending, our Dubai ports, & for Gawd sakes don't mention anything about that wonderful Harriet Meirs for SC. Don't get sick & have to go to an emergency room because these wetbacks will get their ills checked before you. Haven't you seen those talking points, Tom? Shut up & go along with this corrupt "Two-Party Cartel".

71 posted on 09/22/2006 8:55:37 AM PDT by Digger
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To: pollyannaish

no, McCain's stripes are different. He has the finger-in-the-air-to-see-where-the-wind-is-blowing disease. He's angry and bitter about his defeat in the primaries and he gets personal.


72 posted on 09/22/2006 8:56:21 AM PDT by standingfirm
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To: Chuck Dent

In a normal time I would agree that we don't need a fence if we actually punished lawbreaking employers etc. However we have more than job seeking Mexicans crossing our borders. We know that terrorists have crossed both borders. Also we have Hugo Chavez snuggling up to the worst terrorists around.


73 posted on 09/22/2006 9:00:09 AM PDT by cripplecreek (If stupidity got us into this mess, then why can't it get us out?)
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To: MNJohnnie
So we have a New McCain butt clown here. Hey Tommy, better go see what happened to your hero in the Senate when he tried being a "maverick". Sit down and shut up. This is NO time for your personal political ego to be getting in the way.

Tom is almost singlehandely responsible for the fact that the House and the Senate are now considering an enforcement first approach to immigration and not an amnesty first approach. I regard that as a good thing.

Tom is saving the Republican party from itself on this issue.

74 posted on 09/22/2006 9:01:55 AM PDT by ModelBreaker
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To: Miss Marple
It is unacceptable that a Republican would publicly say that he doesn't trust the President. He is free to disagree, but to label the President untrustworthy is simply beyond the pale. Even John McCain hasn't said something this disloyal.

Neither did Tancredo. Here's what he said:

"I don't trust the president to say the borders are secure."

Who does, in that instance? That's a far cry, however, from saying the President is "untrustworthy." I don't trust Bush on the borders either, but on balance I consider him trustworthy.

It's also a little cheeky to expect unquestioning loyalty of Tancredo after Rove burned the bridge back in 2001. You are correct, though, that this a serious election, which is all the more reason the President and McCain ought to knock off their divisive efforts to legalize a lot of people who don't deserve to be in this country.

Regardless, I'll bet Tancredo votes for Bush. What do you think?

75 posted on 09/22/2006 9:03:34 AM PDT by Invisible Gorilla
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To: zbigreddogz
I don't trust Tancredo around my children. Or small animals.

Then you don't know him.

76 posted on 09/22/2006 9:03:45 AM PDT by ModelBreaker
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To: Dane
The Moors, a Muslim people, ruled Spain for many centuries, and as such transferred North African and Middle Eastern genes into the Spanish population. The Mexican population is a mixture of Spaniards and Indians, the latter being descendants of Ice Age era migrants from Northeast Asia. As a result, the physical types of many Middle Easterners are not out of place in Mexico. Middle Easterners will not stand out in a polyglot city like Toronto, but they would be conspicuous in mostly Anglo-Canadian rural Ontario. Additionally, Muslims need not pray in the mosque in Matamoras, if indeed that city has one. If they learn Spanish and Mexican culture, a Muslim terrorist

Both borders represent potential dangers to this country. If we need a wall on our northern border, so be it. Irrespective of the need in connection with Canada, the need clearly exists with Mexico.

77 posted on 09/22/2006 9:05:05 AM PDT by Wallace T.
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To: Miss Marple
We also have a National Guard presence on the border, catch and release ending, more borrder security agents, and the use of drone aircraft for observation.

Can you cite evidence of catch and release ending?

78 posted on 09/22/2006 9:05:49 AM PDT by Invisible Gorilla
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To: Wallace T.
Correction. In the last sentence of the first paragraph, I meant to say, "If they learn Spanish and Mexican culture, a Muslim terrorist, they will not stand out in the overall population.
79 posted on 09/22/2006 9:07:10 AM PDT by Wallace T.
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To: MNJohnnie
There is a time to fight and a time to DO, this is DO time and if Tancredo is too politically stupid to know when to rock the boat and when to buckle down and get something done he is too stupid to be President.

Do you think it's been wise for the President to repeatedly rock the boat with his efforts to legalize illegal aliens?

80 posted on 09/22/2006 9:08:27 AM PDT by Invisible Gorilla
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