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Evolution Is Practically Useless, Admits Darwinist
Creation Evolution Headlines ^ | 08/30/06 | Creation Evolution Headlines

Posted on 09/13/2006 3:52:47 PM PDT by DannyTN

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To: editor-surveyor
Actually, the resistant bacteria use conjugation to pass their resistance on to other bacteria.

More correctly we are looking at a bacterial immune system ~ and it works pretty much like ours.

The guys trying to stretch this into evidence of "evolution" are the same guys trying to revise the word to mean "change", as in "evolution your tire when it goes flat", or "evolution your underwear at least once a month", or "evolution your bed".

241 posted on 09/13/2006 6:54:46 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: stands2reason; CapnBarbosa
"What makes you think gravity is simple?"

Or, how would one even define simplicity when discussing such a poorly understood force?

242 posted on 09/13/2006 6:57:40 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Atheist and Fool are synonyms; Evolution is where fools hide from the sunrise)
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To: muawiyah

You realize that no oil company bases its exploration research on the "theory" of non-biologic petroleum?


243 posted on 09/13/2006 6:59:55 PM PDT by Liberal Classic (No better friend, no worse enemy. Semper Fi.)
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To: muawiyah
. :o)
244 posted on 09/13/2006 7:00:02 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Atheist and Fool are synonyms; Evolution is where fools hide from the sunrise)
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To: CapnBarbosa
have yet to hear a good explanation for particle/wave duality

Particle energy = Planck's constant x wavelength. You want a simpler explanation, but that is as simple an explanation as there is, a single equation relating two variables by one constant. It is an observed fact, and a whole lot simpler than an apple falling on your head due to the hypothesized force of gravity.

Your problem is that you confound every day experience with simple. But, unless you squint your eyes and observe the diffraction through the slits of your eyes, wave-particle duality is not a part of your daily experience. In a laboratory it could be. Most everyday phenomenon are, in fact, far more complex. Wave particle duality only doesn't matter in those cases where there are so many waves interfering with each other that that wave interference effects all wash out and all you see is the gross features of the classical everyday world.

It is not wave particle duality that science has a hard time with, but trying to explain classical physics and the lack of time reversal asymmetry associated with the tangible world.

245 posted on 09/13/2006 7:00:55 PM PDT by AndyJackson
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Thought it'd be a good time to remind everybody:

Please, don't drink and post. The life you save could be your own.

Thank you, and good night.


246 posted on 09/13/2006 7:00:56 PM PDT by stands2reason (ANAGRAM for the day: Socialist twaddle == Tact is disallowed)
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To: editor-surveyor; All
It doesn't. Bacteria do not live as single animals, but in huge colonies called a biofilm. Even if you tried to isolate one, you would not be successful, since they are constantly in the process of replication.

All you creationists and ID supporters out there: Is this your final word on the subject? Is this representative of anti-Darwinian science?

Anyone?

247 posted on 09/13/2006 7:01:00 PM PDT by js1138 (Well I say there are some things we don't want to know! Important things!")
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To: Liberal Classic

They do their research based mostly on where somebody else found oil.


248 posted on 09/13/2006 7:01:58 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah
They do their research based mostly on where somebody else found oil.

Ah, another great moment in creation science.

249 posted on 09/13/2006 7:02:56 PM PDT by js1138 (Well I say there are some things we don't want to know! Important things!")
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To: FFIGHTER

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poe%27s_law


250 posted on 09/13/2006 7:03:02 PM PDT by stands2reason (ANAGRAM for the day: Socialist twaddle == Tact is disallowed)
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To: AndyJackson

Yes, the erratic time-dilation effect messes up every observation from any angle every single time.


251 posted on 09/13/2006 7:03:41 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: stands2reason

Oh who knows, I meant evolutionist. Good grief talk about survival of the fittest.


252 posted on 09/13/2006 7:06:18 PM PDT by svcw
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To: js1138
Creation science? How about paying folks to pass on company secrets?

That's certainly not "evolution".

The challenge was about how oil companies really go about finding oil ~ and, the answer is, they rely on somebody else's discoveries.

253 posted on 09/13/2006 7:06:19 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Suzy Quzy
and besides, there is NO evidence of the process of evolving....anywhere.

False. The example of flu virus mutations was given in the post before yours. Are you going to graciously accept last year's flu shot, or the one from the year before because you don't believe anything evolves?

Then there is this: This is a transitional. Note its position in the chart which follows (hint--in the upper center). Evolution occurred between these various species. You may not believe it, but scientists do and it is their opinions which count.



Fossil: KNM-ER 3733

Site: Koobi Fora (Upper KBS tuff, area 104), Lake Turkana, Kenya (4, 1)

Discovered By: B. Ngeneo, 1975 (1)

Estimated Age of Fossil: 1.75 mya * determined by Stratigraphic, faunal, paleomagnetic & radiometric data (1, 4)

Species Name: Homo ergaster (1, 7, 8), Homo erectus (3, 4, 7), Homo erectus ergaster (25)

Gender: Female (species presumed to be sexually dimorphic) (1, 8)

Cranial Capacity: 850 cc (1, 3, 4)

Information: Tools found in same layer (8, 9). Found with KNM-ER 406 A. boisei (effectively eliminating single species hypothesis) (1)

Interpretation: Adult (based on cranial sutures, molar eruption and dental wear) (1)

See original source for notes:
Source: http://www.mos.org/evolution/fossils/fossilview.php?fid=33


Source: http://wwwrses.anu.edu.au/environment/eePages/eeDating/HumanEvol_info.html

254 posted on 09/13/2006 7:09:51 PM PDT by Coyoteman (I love the sound of beta decay in the morning!)
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To: muawiyah; js1138
The challenge was about how oil companies really go about finding oil ~ and, the answer is, they rely on somebody else's discoveries.

Flapdoodle!

My father (PhD Geology) did oil exploration before switching to uranium exploration. I spent many an hour in the field with him. Believe it when I say he used all kinds of interleaved data to hunt for new oil fields.

He was good at it too. BTW, evolution was one of those data points.

255 posted on 09/13/2006 7:12:49 PM PDT by RadioAstronomer (Senior member of Darwin Central)
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To: Liberal Classic; muawiyah
"You realize that no oil company bases its exploration research on the "theory" of non-biologic petroleum?"

That statement is so ridiculous that it vibrates.

Go back through the posts of the late freeper 'texas cowboy' on the subject, and get educated. The places where oil is sought these days makes you look silly.

256 posted on 09/13/2006 7:14:34 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Atheist and Fool are synonyms; Evolution is where fools hide from the sunrise)
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To: Grig
Giving people an excuse to discount the existance of God?

Which is why creos hate it so much...

257 posted on 09/13/2006 7:16:13 PM PDT by stands2reason (ANAGRAM for the day: Socialist twaddle == Tact is disallowed)
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To: sportutegrl
If evolution predicts that the strong survive, then doesn't that imply that the weak die off? If so, then why do the enviros get so bent out of shape when some species die off, i.e. become extinct?

Evolution does not predict that the strong survive.

258 posted on 09/13/2006 7:18:49 PM PDT by Coyoteman (I love the sound of beta decay in the morning!)
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To: Suzy Quzy

The Church is based in Vatican City.


259 posted on 09/13/2006 7:21:07 PM PDT by stands2reason (ANAGRAM for the day: Socialist twaddle == Tact is disallowed)
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To: RadioAstronomer
OK, so your dad did all the finding, and oil companies did all the drilling and pumping.

Fur Shur they do find it easier to navigate to KNOWN oil fields.

260 posted on 09/13/2006 7:21:16 PM PDT by muawiyah
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