Lawmakers Want Investigation, Pardon for Border Agents

NS News ^ | 8 Sept. 2006 | Monisha Bansal

[Godebert]

You are a disgrace to this forum. Why Mr. Robinson allows you to stay here spewing your anti-American bile is beyond me.

[BeHoldAPaleHorse]

You are an odd bird, supporting dope smugglers over the US Border Patrol, which is trying to secure our borders, and keep drugs away from our kids.

These guys wanted this whole thing to not appear in the record, and went way out of their way to make sure it disappeared, to the point of committing felonies. That's not the behavior of someone fitting the description of "trying to secure our borders, and keep drugs away from our kids."

[BeHoldAPaleHorse]

Wouldn't that have come out in the trial?

Only if it was asked, and that would depend on the defense pretrial motions. If they demanded limited scope on the witness' testimony, then anything beyond what actually happened--i.e., the "why" questions--would be ruled inadmissable.

[BeHoldAPaleHorse]

That smuggling advocate must deal in REALLY large shipments if 743 pounds is just a dime bag to him. Wow.

I'm using it to make a point.

So, you willing to shoot someone for mere possession? Yes or no.

[PRND21]

What anti-American bile? The agents committed felonies and should be punished.

[PRND21]

Why do you support dope smugglers?

Link it, Newbie.

[PRND21]

Are you American, or Mexican?

American. Thanks for signing up this week and supporting felonious acts.

[BeHoldAPaleHorse]

And I thought this was a conservative forum, at least that's what it says on the home page.

It is. Conservatives generally expect law enforcement personnel to obey the law.

Yet here we have most of the posters supporting dope smugglers over the US Border patrol.

Expecting law enforcement personnel to obey the law is not supporting the dope smugglers.

It's really quite confusing.

It's really quite confusing that you're unable to figure out that law enforcement personnel breaking the law is an extremely bad thing.

[microgood]

The agents committed felonies and should be punished.

But they had to give a drug runner amnesty to do it and that is too high a price. Very bad deal.

[BeHoldAPaleHorse]

If I was a Border Patrol agent, I'd shoot somebody for 743 pounds of dope to keep him from escaping to Mexico, to bring in more loads to poison our kids tomorrow. Yes I would.

So you're saying that, if you were in the Border Patrol, you would be unwilling to obey the laws you would be sworn to uphold?

[PRND21]

Agreed, but that doesn't excuse the agents criminal action.

[BeHoldAPaleHorse]

But they had to give a drug runner amnesty to do it and that is too high a price.

What is the price of allowing law enforcement personnel to freely disobey the law?

[antceecee]

You don't know that's what happened. You believe the word of a drugrunner?

[BeHoldAPaleHorse]

You don't know that's what happened.

I've read enough about this case to know that what the agents did is felonious, and a pretty serious one--as serious as the felonies committed by Lon Horiuchi.

You believe the word of a drugrunner?

Not especially. However, destroying evidence and concealing their actions while on duty tends to cause me to believe the Border Patrol agents.

[BeHoldAPaleHorse]

Correction to #198:

Not especially. However, destroying evidence and concealing their actions while on duty tends to cause me to NOT believe the Border Patrol agents.

[microgood]

What is the price of allowing law enforcement personnel to freely disobey the law?

In this case it would be drug runners with bullets in their behinds. But seriously, the question really is do the ends justify the means. I think in this case the prosecutor acted in a very irresponsible way in giving a known drug dealer amnesty once, and then again after he had agreed to testify and was caught smuggling.

You lie down with the dogs and you get fleas. And Johnny Sutton has a severe case of the fleas. Do a search on Johnny Sutton and House of Death and you will see more of this prosecutors antics and dealings with murderous informants and the like, and ruining a DEA agents career who called him on it.

The worst part of this case is that it is politically motivated and these guys are just pawns of a larger game. That is why the sentence is so out of whack.