Lawmakers Want Investigation, Pardon for Border Agents

NS News ^ | 8 Sept. 2006 | Monisha Bansal

[CottonBall]

I thought this was a conservative website?

Now I have to clean the coffee off of my monitor. It must've been another site you were thinking of ;-)

[BW2221]

I view this as similar to the O.J. Simpson trial in many ways.

Marcia Clark and Chris Darden were no match for Simpson's million dollar "dream team." In this case, the Department of Justice spent millions while the Border Patrol agents had to sell everything they had to mount a minimal defense. They had to postpone parts of the trial because one of the defense attorneys had another court appearance.

It was impossible to find a jury in LA that would convict O.J. or a jury in El Paso that would acquit BP agents.

[BeHoldAPaleHorse]

I didn't know that. So police officers that are after a suspect cannot use deadly force if he/she starts to run away?

In general, yes. There are specific exceptions that apply in certain cases, but cops do not have the right to start blasting away merely because someone's running from them.

Seems the odds are stacked in the criminal's favor if all our BP and police have to tackle every criminal just to apprehend them. There's nothing to stop every one from trying to flee then, either.

I'm about to shock you. Better sit down.

You have exactly as much right--no more, no less--to employ deadly force as a cop on duty does. Being a cop doesn't grant you extraordinary power of life and death merely because they're given a badge. Unless the officer has a specific and reasonable belief that the suspect poses an imminent danger to someone's life and limb, deadly force is not allowed.

The problem here is that (a) these guys got stupid, and (b) they lied about it, and destroyed evidence. The former is not necessarily criminal. The latter is, and demonstrates consciousness of guilt.

[monday]

"If he's running back into Mexico, that's a win. Why do you want to catch him? You want to pay for his room and board?"

lol... no I would have just let him go.. Marijuana smuggling isn't that big a deal, but then I am not a Border Patrol agent who I mistakenly thought was supposed to be catching drug smugglers and illegals. So I was wrong.

[PRND21]

It must've been another site you were thinking of ;-)

Said one newbie to the other.

[CottonBall]

Ok, that must mean you're in the OBL crowd or you would've answered. It is relevants because it explains why you're willing to have our BP agents just watching the illegals saunter back and forth over the border. Armed with nothing other than nerfbats.

[BeHoldAPaleHorse]

You willing to shoot someone solely because they a dime bag of pot?

[BeHoldAPaleHorse]

2nd try (don't sneeze while previewing a post)

You willing to shoot someone solely because they have a dime bag of pot?

[CottonBall]

Said one newbie to the other.

Do you think you're insulting us or something? That's about as effective as sticking you fingers in your ears and waving them. Middle school tactics.

[PRND21]

It is relevants because it explains why you're willing to have our BP agents just watching the illegals saunter back and forth over the border.

Complete falsehood. I stated no such thing.

[BW2221]

"hypocrite"

This is about the 20th time you've used this or a variation of it on this thread.

New word on your spelling list?

[monday]

Working for the government is dangerous unless you are senior enough to have the connections to cover your ass! It's always the peons who get screwed.

[PRND21]

This thread is all about hypocracy and illegal activity.
If you don't like the word, quit excusing illegal behavior.

[PRND21]

It's always the peons who get screwed.

Workers of the World Unite!!! Sheesh.

[antceecee]

Bump!
"...the scummmm drug runner needs to be shot (along with every other drug smuggler) in the a$$ by every citizen that lost a loved one because of the drugs, gangs,cartels and illegal alien lawlessness in our country."

Unbelievable support on here for illegal drug runners. Just amazing!

[monday]

"You willing to shoot someone solely because they a dime bag of pot?"

I said I would have let them go. What the F is your problem?

[PRND21]

Unbelievable support on here for illegal drug runners. Just amazing!

Where did anyone support the drug runner?

[antceecee]

You.. in just about every vile post you have on here.
Almost thought maybe part of that 700 plus pound pot shipment was supposed to go to you... sour grapes.

[PRND21]

False. Show me the link.
I said the Border Agents broke the law and should be punished.

[monday]

"Where did anyone support the drug runner?"

During the trial you can't argue that there was anything less than absolute and total support from Johnny Sutton and his crew. I wouldn't be surprised if Johnny personally threw in a complementary BJ for the lucky drug runner!