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9/11: Five years later Typecasting Muslims as a Race
The San Francisco Chronicle ^ | September 3, 2006 | Matthai Chakko Kuruvila, Chronicle Religion Writer

Posted on 09/03/2006 10:56:41 PM PDT by Tamar1973

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To: zimdog

"Edward is a Christian name"

Edward Roffman tells us, “I grew up in Brooklyn, New York, in a home with strong Jewish roots. My parents are both fluent Yiddish speakers, and my identification with Judaism has always been strong, although worship and ritual observance were not major components in my upbringing. My discovery of the vitality of worship and the importance of observance has constituted a major journey of my adult life.

“I love teaching prayer, song, chant, and the myriad facets of our Jewish tradition to adults and children. I envision my teaching to be similar to gardening. Some of the seeds that I plant will take root quickly, and some may not germinate or grow for many years. The process of my own personal development as a Cantor was influenced by seeds of Jewish learning that were planted in me as a child. It is a privilege to have the opportunity to develop and encourage appreciation of the immeasurable joy of Jewish worship within my congregation, B'nai Israel in Basking Ridge, New Jersey.


81 posted on 09/04/2006 3:46:07 AM PDT by DaveTesla (You can fool some of the people some of the time......)
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To: DaveTesla
Sanchez is also a Portuguese Jewish name.

Good point. "Hamilton Sanchez" is a very Brazilian name, and he was from Newark, where there is a large Portuguese and Lusophone community. Still, most Iberian Jews who ended up in the Americas were "New Christians" and under watch of the Inquisition. This Sanchez might come from an observant Sephardi family (although the name "Hamilton" indicates that he does not) or from a "crypto-Jewish" family of Catholics who retain some Jewish practices. There are many in Brazil.

82 posted on 09/04/2006 3:47:24 AM PDT by zimdog
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To: DaveTesla
Yes. True.

Edward is a Christian name, in that is recognizes St. Edward. I would imagine that Edward Roffman's Hebrew name is not "Edward" though. And I certainly wouldn't bet the farm on the fact that Edward McDonald is the son of two fluent Yiddish speakers.

Which is not to say there are no Irish Jews, just to say that Edward McDonald is probably a nominal Christian. And certainly an accused murderer.

83 posted on 09/04/2006 3:51:10 AM PDT by zimdog
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To: zimdog
Among the Muslims of Saudi Arabia and Pakistan, many are Islamists. Among the Muslims of Ghana and Albania, very few are.

That may be true or not, but in both cases has nothing to do with the silly writer's of the article in question idea, that one can identify someone as "a Muslim without even knowing his nationality".

I mean, a national of any country - Ghana, Albania or France - can put a table cloth or a diaper on his head and will be identified as a Muslim... but how will you know he's also a French (or Albanian)?

84 posted on 09/04/2006 4:01:16 AM PDT by Neophyte (Nazis, Communists, Islamists... what the heck is the difference?)
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To: Tamar1973
"Muslims are the new Jews," said Paul Silverstein, an anthropology professor at Reed College in Oregon who studies the intersection of race, immigration and Islam. "They're the object of a series of stereotypes, caricatures and fears which are not based in a reality and are independent of a person's experience with Muslims."

Here is another "caricature" Mr. Silverstein, which is predicated upon MY reality-based experience, as evidenced by ALL of the terrorists activities which have befallen the West and all Infidels over the past 5 years, as well as most others, during the past 15 - 20 years.

islamist_hypocrisy

"I can pass as Christian," said Ma-Hood Raghead, 27, a Beirut resident , who was frustrated by repeated airport security interrogations until he stopped wearing a his "special belt" Naturally, he considers this as being "oppressed" for feeling forced into shedding this "required" article of the faith.

85 posted on 09/04/2006 4:01:37 AM PDT by seasoned traditionalist (ALL MUSLIMS ARE NOT TERRORISTS, BUT ALL TERRORISTS WHO WANT TO DESTROY OUR COUNTRY, ARE MUSLIMS)
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To: Tamar1973
If we get too tied up in racial profiling, the bad guys can easily get around that by recruiting people who don't fit the stereotype. They're doing it in Chechnya quite sucessfully, from what I've read.

It is because Chechnya is part of Russia. In Russia, you can cheaply hire someone for literally anything - human life is the sheapest possible commodity there.

For instance, in the book "The Osama bin Laden I know" one of OBL's closest aids mentiones an passan that his master left Afghanistan for Sudan by a jet with a Russian pilot... and that had happend when the Russians were still fighting in Afghanistan.

86 posted on 09/04/2006 4:07:05 AM PDT by Neophyte (Nazis, Communists, Islamists... what the heck is the difference?)
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To: Tamar1973

If it walks like a duck and looks like a duck....


87 posted on 09/04/2006 4:09:14 AM PDT by kittymyrib
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To: zimdog

Wrote real fast...


88 posted on 09/04/2006 4:11:20 AM PDT by DB (©)
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To: zimdog
And what, pray tell, did the Spanish Inquisition demand?


89 posted on 09/04/2006 4:13:54 AM PDT by killjoy (Dirka dirka mohammed jihad! Sherpa sherpa bakalah!)
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To: Neophyte
I mean, a national of any country - Ghana, Albania or France - can put a table cloth or a diaper on his head and will be identified as a Muslim... but how will you know he's also a French (or Albanian)?

I think anyone wearing a diaper on his head will be identified as something other than Muslim.

"Crazy" probably, but not "Muslim".

In international airports, nationality can be seen in passports. In less formal situations, accent, syntax, manners, etc. give hints as to what country someone is from.

90 posted on 09/04/2006 4:13:59 AM PDT by zimdog
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To: DB
Wrote real fast...

That often gives you an advantage...

91 posted on 09/04/2006 4:15:47 AM PDT by zimdog
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To: killjoy

Didn't expect that!


92 posted on 09/04/2006 4:17:46 AM PDT by zimdog
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To: zimdog
You seem to believe that a Muslim majority makes for an inevitable theocracy. That's your opinion, but the facts are against you.

It may be not, but a Muslim majority leads to other similarities. For instance, the heavily Islamist Taliban made the drug manufacturing and trade the main source of the regime income; and so did "non-Islamist" (in your opinion) Albania, and especially it's future province Kossovo. The difference is that Kossovars and Albanians diversify in other savory areas - the sex slavery being their specialty of choice.

93 posted on 09/04/2006 4:30:40 AM PDT by Neophyte (Nazis, Communists, Islamists... what the heck is the difference?)
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To: zimdog
Not on my spelling or grammar...

It's not good even if I take my time...
94 posted on 09/04/2006 4:36:53 AM PDT by DB (©)
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To: Neophyte
It may be not, but a Muslim majority leads to other similarities. For instance, the heavily Islamist Taliban made the drug manufacturing and trade the main source of the regime income; and so did "non-Islamist" (in your opinion) Albania, and especially it's future province Kossovo.

Correlation is not causation. What does this have to do with Islam? And the non-Islamist government in British India that traded in opium? And the non-Islamist government in Bolivia right now, which came to power on a promise to legalize coca farming? And non-Islamist America dominated the world tobacco market through the early 20th century.

The difference is that Kossovars and Albanians diversify in other savory areas - the sex slavery being their specialty of choice.

Where they compete with Orthodox Russia, Catholic Philippines, and Buddhist Thailand. What's your point?

95 posted on 09/04/2006 4:39:17 AM PDT by zimdog
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To: DB

I hear ya...


96 posted on 09/04/2006 4:40:18 AM PDT by zimdog
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To: zimdog
In international airports, nationality can be seen in passports. In less formal situations, accent, syntax, manners, etc. give hints as to what country someone is from.

Passports....yeah, that's reliable! Accents, sure nobody can fake a southern drawl!

This is why profiling does not work with this group of terrorists. They will shave their beards, get sex changes, use the elderly....whatever it takes to attack us.

We need to keep checking everyone at random and use behvior profiling to its fullest.

97 posted on 09/04/2006 4:43:59 AM PDT by Erik Latranyi (The Democratic Party will not exist in a few years....we are watching history unfold before us.)
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We need to keep checking everyone at random and use behvior profiling to its fullest.

Or we need to keep checking everyone. Period.

98 posted on 09/04/2006 4:46:18 AM PDT by zimdog
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To: zimdog
In international airports, nationality can be seen in passports. In less formal situations, accent, syntax, manners, etc. give hints as to what country someone is from.

Once again, what does this have to do with the silly assertion of the article's writer?

99 posted on 09/04/2006 4:49:30 AM PDT by Neophyte (Nazis, Communists, Islamists... what the heck is the difference?)
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To: zimdog
Didn't expect that!

Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition!

100 posted on 09/04/2006 4:49:34 AM PDT by killjoy (Dirka dirka mohammed jihad! Sherpa sherpa bakalah!)
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