Experts find site of Zulu siege

BBC ^ | 22 Aug 2006 | Stephen Stewart

[Marius3188]

"dramatised by Michael Caine in the film Zulu."

Pisses me off, that in today's society we reference history using Movies and that our collective memories seem to use TV as their benchmarks of knowledge.

Television killed history--media only acknowledges reality for which film exists (last 40 years vice 4000)

Sorry for the rant.

Anyway, British Courage at it's finest.

[Marius3188]

GGG ping

I don't know if military battle sites(recent -200 yrs) is in your GGG collective.

[theDentist]

Yes, but please note: it is a great film.

[TXnMA]

Historic archaeology ping...

[justshutupandtakeit]

Great movie.

[coconutt2000]

You'll get a kick out of this. From the Amazon.com synopsis:

"Although the basic premise has since been executed with more technical skill and panache (most notably by Aliens and Michael Mann's The Last of the Mohicans)"

Apparently even old films are reviewed in terms of newer movies, not just history.

[Puppage]

The colonial war in 1879 was dramatised by Michael Caine in the film Zulu

His first film, too.

[ibbryn]

I believe Zulu is the film Peter Jackson cites as THE textbook guide to filming a battle sequence. He used it as inspiration for the Lord of the Rings finale.

[Tijeras_Slim]

I watched it a few weeks ago. He looked unbelieveably young.

[Junior]

I dunno. I'm in favor of anything that makes the public more aware of history. If you've got to use movies and TV to do this, then that's what you have to do.

[Junior]

Great movie.

"Zulus, Colour Sergeant. Thousands of them."

[justshutupandtakeit]

Chaka Zulu is another great movie about the Zulu leader. Mini-series actually but fascinating.

[Tzimisce]

interesting

[Leatherneck_MT]

and he has one of my favorite movie quotes to this day from that film.

Chard: The army doesn't like more than one disaster in a day.

Bromhead: Looks bad in the newspaper and upsets civilians at their breakfast.

God I Love that!

[in the Arena]

They also discovered that heavy rains during the siege turned the fort into a polluted quagmire leading to an outbreak of typhus which killed large number of men.

Dr Pollard said the story of the fort provides a testament to the skill of the Royal Engineers and particularly of Captain Warren Wynne.

These two statement seem to contradict each other...

[Brit1]

Not a rant Marius3188 but telling it as it should be told.
Not only is it TV but also Hollywood...U157or was it U571 the capture by the Americans of the Enigma machine for which two of our sailors gave their lives and also how two US flyers won the Battle of Britain for us don't know the title but a couple of B.o.B vets were invited to a pre screening and left after 10mins.They had seen enough.
There again we should pay tribute to John Ford for his 'Cavalry Trilogy'...he knew their importance when he filmed them and it shows.

[colorado tanker]

After the actual Rorke's Drift battle, 11 Victoria Crosses (the highest British award "for valour") were awarded, the highest number ever given in a single conflict.

Men of Harlech onto glory
This shall ever be your story
Keep these fighting words before ye
Welshmen never yield

[SF Republican]

Television killed history although I generally agree with your sentiment, Band of Brothers, Saying Private Ryan, Ken Burns Civil War documentary are all IMHO valuable tools.

[SF Republican]

His first film, too
ALFIE?

[SF Republican]

disregard Alfie, that was way down the list.