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Children Fight to Save Comatose Mom From Life Support Removal
LifeSiteNews ^ | 8/21/06 | Peter J. Smith

Posted on 08/21/2006 3:43:35 PM PDT by wagglebee

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To: metmom
What if it were an illegal who needed serious long term care. Would they be turned down?

Better question... would FReepers care about that life?

141 posted on 08/21/2006 7:04:58 PM PDT by HairOfTheDog (Head On. Apply directly to the forehead!)
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To: HairOfTheDog

Indeed, "who pays?" is an important question, as not even live-preserving care is without its costs. I would first be interested to know why the insurance stopped paying for her care.

Then I would be interested in examining the question of priorities in terms of what the government is spending on health care, who benefits and how; for example, I would say that there's no care for any foreigner that should take precedence over life-preserving care of an American citizen. Divorced from context I can see how it can in some cases simply be too expensive to continue paying for care for someone who is not long expected to live. In the context of billions and billions spent by the gov't on illegal aliens, abortion subsidies, viagra for sex offenders, "gender-reassignment", etc., it takes on a whole new color.

One must ask why a person like this - US citizen, not a criminal, not a pervert, not terminal - seems to always be last in line to be helped, once the private money runs out.

Finally, another element that bothers me is the promptness with which the decision was made, and whether the system that is in place encourages "accidents" in treatment, such as this woman suffered from the dialysis, that coincidentally happen to save the people making these decisions a lot of money.


I guess one thing that colors my own perspective is that not too long ago my grandfather passed away; he was quite old, and it was his time, yet for years before his time came, various doctors wanted to push him down a path I can describe accurately as nothing other than an encouraged accelerated death.


142 posted on 08/21/2006 7:13:06 PM PDT by thoughtomator (There is no "Islamofascism" - there is only Islam)
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To: HairOfTheDog
Better question... would FReepers care about that life?

Terri was paid for, did you care about her life?

143 posted on 08/21/2006 7:13:56 PM PDT by bjs1779
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To: bert

Are all acts that are against God's direct orders, carried out by God through people? When doctors murder, it's really God doing it? When pedophiles rape, it's really God doing it? Sorry, I can't buy into that theory.


144 posted on 08/21/2006 7:14:20 PM PDT by BykrBayb ("We will not be silent. We are your bad conscience. The White Rose will give you no rest." Þ)
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To: thoughtomator

Good questions in your post. Questions we don't yet have the answers to.


145 posted on 08/21/2006 7:27:43 PM PDT by HairOfTheDog (Head On. Apply directly to the forehead!)
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To: tutstar

This is all about money.


146 posted on 08/21/2006 7:54:03 PM PDT by tessalu
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To: wagglebee
just days after 61-year-old Ruthie Webster's insurance stopped full coverage of her long-term care

that says it all

147 posted on 08/21/2006 7:57:45 PM PDT by ladyjane
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To: Kirkwood

My son was on dialysis and Medicare paid for it. I thought the federal govt. took over this years ago.

My brother-in-law's dialysis was also paid for by Medicare.


148 posted on 08/21/2006 7:58:53 PM PDT by Collier
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To: ladyjane; tessalu
that says it all

Yes, and at least we can rejoice that the rumored 'death cult who wants to see this woman dead' is in fact, a myth. It's all about money. So... Find the money, or send her to another hospital. Saying "it's all about the money" doesn't mean much when it's the bank and they want the payment on the house... Not sure why saying that would make this problem go away either.

149 posted on 08/21/2006 8:13:45 PM PDT by HairOfTheDog (Head On. Apply directly to the forehead!)
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To: sinkspur
Uh, this thread is not about the treatment of illegals.

Health care in this country is totally impacted by the millions of illegals who have invaded this country.

Illegals bring with them diseases such as leprosy, drug-resistant TB, malaria, AIDs, tape worms, etc.

The illegals have overwhelmed our health care system andit's costing us billions of dollars a year.

To stay alive hospitals are pulling the plug on paying patients once the reimbursement runs out.

This thread has a lot to do with the treatment of illegals.

150 posted on 08/21/2006 8:14:01 PM PDT by ladyjane
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To: ladyjane
IMMIGANT TAKES REFUGE IN CHURCH
151 posted on 08/21/2006 9:02:30 PM PDT by paltz
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To: wagglebee

What a horrible decision. Everyone should reread their health insurance policy and stay away from Texas. Does this family have a legal defense fund?


152 posted on 08/21/2006 9:09:02 PM PDT by Ronaldus Magnus
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To: wagglebee
Pinged from Terri AUGUST Dailies

8mm

153 posted on 08/22/2006 4:28:21 AM PDT by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam Tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: rebelyell7
I notice that they don't have insurance coverage, aren't willing to pay anything but also won't let their mother be transferred to another (religious, perhaps?) hospital. As a taxpayer I am only too happy to indulge their stubbornness and the millions of dollars it will cost, of which they will pay 0. If the hospital were unwilling to transfer her that would be one thing, but this is ridiculous.

What makes you think they will pay 0? Do you have some reason to think that your tax money is somehow set aside to pay for things like this? I am so sick of people screaming about how their taxes are spent. If it were your mother or your child or yourself in this situation, would you object to spending mine? We all pay taxes. I want my share used to take care of this family.

154 posted on 08/22/2006 4:50:36 AM PDT by Desert_Girl (You don't have to be American to be caucasian and you don't have to be a citizen to be legal!)
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To: roxybear
Protecting people is in the Constitution. Why must freepers like you always take everything out of context?

Context is everything, grin and bear it, roxy it.

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157 posted on 08/22/2006 7:06:18 AM PDT by floriduh voter (TOM GALLAGHER IS THE ONLY CONSERVATIVE FOR GUV www.tg2006.com)
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To: roxybear

MEDICAL COSTS ARE TOO HIGH. That's my final answer. good day...


158 posted on 08/22/2006 7:07:03 AM PDT by floriduh voter (TOM GALLAGHER IS THE ONLY CONSERVATIVE FOR GUV www.tg2006.com)
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To: Hildy

I never advocated any such thing.
What I advocate is that the family seek out a hospital with a benevolant policy and similar morals.

People really need to wake up and take care of their business beforehand - without clear written end-of-life directives we are going to see this time and time and time again.


159 posted on 08/22/2006 8:48:49 AM PDT by BlueNgold (Feed the Tree .....)
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To: roxybear

Yes. Your point???


160 posted on 08/22/2006 11:31:41 AM PDT by djreece ("... Until He leads justice to victory." Matt. 12:20c)
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