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Dems Move Closer to McGovern's Losing Formula
Real Clear Politics ^ | 08/09/06 | John McIntyre

Posted on 08/09/2006 7:49:21 AM PDT by freespirited

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To: Rocko
>>Unfortunately, there doesn't seem to be another Reagan on the horizon.<<

No... and the truth is we were more ready for Reagan because of the way Vietnam turned out, Watergate and Jimmy Carter. He couldn't have gotten the same mandate in '68.

21 posted on 08/09/2006 8:15:36 AM PDT by gondramB (We will have peace, when you and all your works have perished and the works of your dark master)
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To: oh8eleven

>>Everything happens for a reason.<<

It does.


22 posted on 08/09/2006 8:16:30 AM PDT by gondramB (We will have peace, when you and all your works have perished and the works of your dark master)
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To: JLAGRAYFOX

It's going to be so much fun to watch all the lefties get their hopes so high, only to have them dashed to bits in November. DU is so entertaining.


23 posted on 08/09/2006 8:19:33 AM PDT by rottndog (WOOF!!!)
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To: taxcontrol

"Anyone know about the Republican contender for this seat? I'm wondering if Lamont picks up the Dem vote and Joe picks up some of the Independents or Dems, is there a possibility for a Republican pickup here?"

The fact that none of us (including me) seem to even know his name indicates that he's not going to win.

Maybe he should withdraw and throw his support to Lieberman.


24 posted on 08/09/2006 8:20:24 AM PDT by ChuteTheMall (Tagline: (optional, printed after your name on post):)
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To: freespirited
Dems Move Closer to McGovern's Losing Formula

With this strategery they could even loose D.C.!

25 posted on 08/09/2006 8:22:40 AM PDT by Don Corleone (Leave the gun..take the cannoli)
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To: freespirited
Democrats went down this road in the late 1960's with Vietnam and they are still carrying the baggage from that leftward turn. Lamont's win is a big step back to that losing formula.

The DLC is dying. I see the democrats getting even more looney. They are repeating the cycle of election losses from 1980, 1984, and 1988. This is however bad for the country when left wing, hate America types throw out a decent democrat. If had a shred of hope before, the democrats are no longer the party of Truman and JFK.

26 posted on 08/09/2006 8:24:09 AM PDT by KC_Conspirator
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To: freespirited

The rats lost a solid senate seat yesterday and that's just the beginning for them. Lieberman will win handily as an indy and he now owes no allegience to the party.

No more can the rats hide their moonbattery; they're standing right on the edge of the cliff. Jump f**kers! JUMP!


27 posted on 08/09/2006 8:37:31 AM PDT by telebob
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To: freespirited
Anti-war Democrats and much of the mainstream media continue to confuse anti-war with anti-lose. The incessant commentary that 2/3rd of the country is against the war completely misreads the American public, as much of the negativity towards the war isn't because we are fighting, but rather a growing feeling that we are not fighting to win or not fighting smart.

Very important point...

28 posted on 08/09/2006 8:44:52 AM PDT by danneskjold
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To: small voice in the wilderness
Joe Lieberman is a northern liberal whose Jewish background gives him some sense of reality on mideast policy. Not on the cold war, mind you, or on Communist China, or trade or Venezuela, but on the need to defeat mideast terrorism in order to protect the US and Israel.

Zell Miller is a classic southern democrat, conservative socially, Christian, and aggressive in foreign affairs, but a dem because his daddy and grandaddy were, because the Dems were the South's party at the time of the Civil War. Most Southern Democrats made the switch to the GOP between the 60s and the 80s. A few are still straggling in. Zell never will, but he is with us nonetheless.

Zell and Joe have nothing to talk about except Iraq.

29 posted on 08/09/2006 8:57:35 AM PDT by Defiant (Arnold has become a democrat, and does not deserve the votes of conservatives.)
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To: gondramB
I wonder where the country would be if that been no Watergate and no Jimmy Carter.

In 1972 Nixon was re-elected in one of the most massive landslide elections in U.S. political history, defeating George McGovern and garnering over 60% of the popular vote. He carried 49 of the 50 states, trailing only in Massachusetts.
Richard Nixon

A few key differences exist between the political environment of the 1970s and the 2000s. The Left now lacks their monolithic MSM and a solid Democrat majority in both houses required to subvert the will of the people:

The coup that overthrew President Nixon was largely orchestrated by Senator Edward Kennedy to reverse the left-repudiating 1972 election and serve Kennedy's presidential ambitions. This coup led to Communist victory in Vietnam, toppling dominoes in Southeast Asia, and encouragement to left revolutionary movements worldwide. It also allowed Kennedy and his liberal media allies to identify the tragic Vietnam War not with President John F. Kennedy, who committed the first 17,000 armed troops there, but with Republican President Nixon.
A Guide to the Political Left

30 posted on 08/09/2006 8:57:44 AM PDT by Milhous (Twixt truth and madness lies but a sliver of a stream.)
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To: telebob
The rats lost a solid senate seat yesterday and that's just the beginning for them. Lieberman will win handily as an indy and he now owes no allegience to the party.

But the fact is that he does have an allegiance to their party. Can't he win as an independent, then announce he's becoming a democrat again a few months later? I would expect that he will be pressured into doing exactly that.

31 posted on 08/09/2006 8:59:14 AM PDT by freespirited (No pair has been more wrong, more loudly,more often than the two Senators from Massachusetts.-Zell)
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To: freespirited

The Democrat Party = America's Hezbullah.


32 posted on 08/09/2006 9:03:38 AM PDT by Tall_Texan (I wish a political party would come along that thinks like I do.)
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To: Jim Noble

Indeed.....there were very few solidly liberal states back then .

California, Florida and Pennsylvania were never "in play".

The "Left" has gotten almost 50% of votes cast in the past 2 POTUS elections.

I'm guessing that is the highest since after the Depression and this Left is far more culturally liberal then ever.


33 posted on 08/09/2006 9:04:55 AM PDT by wardaddy (I have undergone Harpie detox, it was very tough but well worth it)
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To: Syco

Ouch, he would have to be polling at at least 30% by now to even be viable for the election. Thanks for the update.


34 posted on 08/09/2006 9:19:57 AM PDT by taxcontrol
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To: freespirited
"...then announce he's becoming a democrat again a few months later? I would expect that he will be pressured into doing exactly that."

The rats can't pressure Joe to do anything. Joe's in the driver's seat now. He doesn't need rat money, he definitely doesn't need rat tactics, support or anything else from them, which he wouldn't get anyway. I'm betting he's going to get a lot of republican money and support.

Remember, he's just been thrown under the bus by the rat leadership who are now committed to campaigning for the one trick pony Lamont.

Joe's his own man now and he can tell the rat leadership to go piss up a rope. He may vote with them on many issues but from here on in, he's solid on the WOT. He can't be pressured to toe the rat line.

35 posted on 08/09/2006 9:21:33 AM PDT by telebob
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To: freespirited

I can see the "enhanced" campaign commercial with Osama, Kim Il and the Iran guy superimposed behind Lamont chanting "Bring them home".


36 posted on 08/09/2006 9:31:22 AM PDT by y6162
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To: Milhous

>> The coup that overthrew President Nixon <<

Can you call it a coup when the President resigns?


37 posted on 08/09/2006 9:47:14 AM PDT by gondramB (We will have peace, when you and all your works have perished and the works of your dark master)
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To: gondramB

They called it a win on the left when LBJ decided not to run.
They hounded Nixon into resignation. So, in the mind of the moonbats, both were successful coups.

That was then, when they had a media we all still believed.


38 posted on 08/09/2006 10:13:45 AM PDT by reformedliberal ("Eliminate the mullahs and Islam shall disappear in fifty years." Ayatollah Khomeini)
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To: reformedliberal

>>They called it a win on the left when LBJ decided not to run.
They hounded Nixon into resignation. So, in the mind of the moonbats, both were successful coups. <<

A win for dems, sure. A coup? I wouldn't use that term myself.


39 posted on 08/09/2006 10:28:29 AM PDT by gondramB (We will have peace, when you and all your works have perished and the works of your dark master)
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To: Syco

"Another example of the GOP shooting itself in the foot."
more like an example of an egotist who won't get over himself, see the writing on the wall and step away for someone who could win


40 posted on 08/09/2006 10:29:33 AM PDT by DM1
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