Posted on 08/01/2006 6:02:55 PM PDT by seutonius1234
Any idea of what the general election is likely to do to change this?
Yeah, you guys can celebrate. But we will return. Anyway;, for now, congrats.
Okay, but aside from the issue of ID, which is hardly a real or pressing issue, now we have to live with more RINOs?
Kris Kobach was as different from Dennis Moore as one could be, easily the most conservative Republican ever to run in the 3rd District. He lost by 10 points. So it can't be that.
Compare Moore to the Nancy Pelosis and Harry Reeds of the party and he comes off as downright conservative. Moore makes sures that he votes with the Republicans on enough isses that he can seem moderate. He's with the party on the big ones, though.
He might. But I think Moore's not expecting Roberts to run. And without Pat who would be the likely GOP challenger?
"But I think Moore's not expecting Roberts to run. And without Pat who would be the likely GOP challenger?"
I hope Pat doesn't retire because neither one of the names you mentioned can be considered all that serious challengers. Phil Kline has to worry about getting re-elected Attroney General first. He squeaked in in 2002 against a no-name, under-funded Democrat. He doesn't have that luxury this time. Ryun may be popular in the 2nd District but his speaking in tongues at campaign rally's won't play well in Johnson County. His margin of victory in 2004 was less than Moore's, and Moore will probably cruise in 2006.
I'm not hoping that Roberts retires, and I'm not saying Moore is unbeatable. But I've watched the last 7 elections in this county and I'm saying that you underestimate Moore at your peril. A lot of GOP losers have done just that.
Kansans are a heck of a lot more likely to elect a Democrat Governor or AG or to some other state office than to the U.S. Senate. I don't see why Kline having a tough reelection fight for AG means that he wouldn't defeat Moore handily for the Senate. Remember, Kline nearly beat Moore in 2000, and Kansas as a whole is 6% more Republican than the 3rd CD. As for Ryun's religious conservatism "not playing well" in Johnson County, that's as may be, but I haven't seen any Democrat defeat the equally socially conservative Sam Brownback for the Senate.
And if you don't like those two candidates, how about Congressman Jerry Moran? I doubt Moore would even approach 45% against him in a Senate race.
Unless he loses. Morrison has a solid reputation in Johnson County and the ability to pull disaffected Republicans. He also has a boatload of cash. And if Kline has problems with state-wide office like AG then what makes you think that Senate would be any better?
Ryun is a flake and he could be vulnurable because you know the Democrats will raise the issue of his townhouse purchase back in 2000 and try to tar him with his connections with DeLay. Moran would have a better chance at keeping the seat should Roberts retire. Failing him I'd pick Tihart over Ryun. But in either case if the Kansas GOP keeps fracturing the way it has been then any Republican will have to work harder than he should have to.
looks like at least a one-seat evolutionist lead now, perhaps more after the general
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And that comment, Non-Sequitur, is why Dennis Moore has been all but unbeatable in the 3rd District. Moore has done a good job of riding his rewp as a DA in Johnson County to beat back the charges of "liberalism". Between the Democratic strongholds of Wynandotte and Douglas Counties, all Moore has to do is come close to breaking even in Johnson County to win the 3rd District.
In a state wide contest Kline will be at the disadvantage because the Drive-By Media has done everything in it's power to paint Kline as a hick right-wing boob. Morrisdon will be painted as the crusading DA who has come to rescue the State of Kansas from the religous fanatics who are running the Republican party.
At this time I would rate Kline's chances at slightly less than even.
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So the general should, if anything, increase the pro-science majority?
One of Kline's biggest successes as AG will, unfortunately, not be a campaign issue. Had the Supreme Court upheld the state courts overturning of the death penalty then Kine might have been able to use the liberal court as a campaign tool. Or if Kline had done something, anything to make it look like he was taking on the court over their school funding ruling. But he didn't. What Kline is going to be best known for come November is his taking on abortionists. And that is not going to help him with independents and the Johnson County moderate Republicans.
Yep
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The angry RINO Taffites didn't bother to support Kobach, so it most certainly was their fault... once again. I was supporting Rep. Patricia Lightner in that race, anyhow. She was a Conservative but hadn't been villified as Kobach had. It's a damn good thing Taff hadn't won, as with most of your RINOs, it turned out his ethics were non-existent.
I don't grade on the Lieberman scale. He's quite liberal by any stretch, and is no moderate. I saw Ron Gunzberger label him a "Conservative", with a straight face. It shows how disingenuous the left is. I don't know exactly what he votes with the GOP on when he scores that low, but it ain't much.
"Disaffected Republicans" = liberal RINO apostates.
yes, as the Dems would be facing the two conservatives.
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