Posted on 07/21/2006 8:13:53 PM PDT by K-oneTexas
Thanks for not excerpting the article.
I wonder how many prosecutions have happened using this information.
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John Linder in the House(HR25) & Saxby Chambliss Senate(S25) offer a comprehensive bill to kill all federal income, SS/Medicare payroll, and gift/estate taxes outright replacing them with with a national retail sales tax administered by the states.
H.R.25,S.25
A bill to promote freedom, fairness, and economic opportunity by repealing the income tax and other taxes, abolishing the Internal Revenue Service, and enacting a national retail sales tax to be administered primarily by the States.Refer for additional information:
I don't know. But how ever many it is, it's not enough.
If the illegal alien is here to pay for the citizen's retirement, that must mean he is an identity thief. Because that's the only way he could be contributing the Social Security. Therefore, if he's paying for the guy's retirement, it's only karma, since the guy probably already paid for the illegal alien's kids to go to school and college, for the illegal alien's family to get free medical care and overburden our hospitals for every dang hangnail, for the illegal alien to claim FDIC and get the unearned income tax credit and any number of other benefits that citizens have subsidized for him.
So this cartoon sucks, imho. Boo bloody hoo for the illegal alien. In my book, he's come out way ahead.
She's made identity theft a 'top priority' of her tenure in office. I'm going to ask her lackey exactly how many illegal aliens she's charged under the new laws she's demanded the Illinois Legislature pass.
I really wish we had video phones because I'm pretty sure it'd be lots of fun to watch her head explode.
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*BUMP*!
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Golly !!!...Where to begin????
I took the cartoon THIS WAY !!!
The people who are trying to SELL this ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION, IMHO, are no different than some advertising agency trying to create a "hook" , or "catch phrase", to sell their "product", (ie, Coke is IT, or Nike = "Just Do It !!".
What I took from the cartoon, is NOT that the elderly gentleman "AGREES" with the "saying" on the shirt.
He is still isn't BUYING the "idea" or "product"(ie "Guest Worker Program"), he's just saying that the latest attempt at the "marketing" of it using THAT phrase, isn't as LAME as the first.
Sorry if pookie18's cartoon upset you by my posting it, but you can bet YOU WILL HEAR THAT SAYING USED A LOT before this mess gets "straightened out", to try and "sell"
the idea to the American public.
Again, I'm sorry if it made you upset.
"Illegal aliens who work under stolen or fraudulent Social Security numbers will never receive Social Security benefits,..."
don't bet your retirement on that
Mr. Cain is a little slow, as both of these subjects have been discussed for years, right here on FR.
Not upset at all -- just puzzled about posting the cartoon. I keep hearing that garbage about how they are benefitting all us rubes and I'm sick of it. You know, the saving-for-our-old-age that we Americans won't do (because it gets harder and harder with all the taxes we have to pay to subsidize the illegal aliens' comfort and, which I forgot to mention, all the money they so "generously" send home). Ah, you see, I'm off to the races again.
As you were. :-)
OK Geez, When are we gonna see that bill passed? I suspect never, as they got a free hand at the greatest theft ever committed in the history of mankind with the present tax system.
Kinda hard to stop successful thief/thieves from stealing.
Not neccesarily---I had an employee who gave me a fictitious SS number which I did not find out about until 3 years into his employment with me. It wasn't a number that belonged to someone else, it was a number he or the forgerer made up. I always wondered what happened to the money he--and I--contributed
Excuse me, but I'm a boomer who has worked consistently throughout my life, from the age of 15 1/2 (when I was legally allowed to) onward. I am now 58. My spouse and I have traveled little and we have a 19-sq-ft home, a 5 year old car and a 10 year old car (both bought used). I have paid two children's way through college by working two jobs and not taking taxpayer-subsidized loans, and now, I am still working, harder than ever (50-hr week minimum)and I don't anticipate retiring until I'm pushed out of the company I work for. I do not make anywhere near a 6 figure salary, and I live in So Cal, so am not flush with cash; every month is a balancing act, since we still have a mortgage. So we have some modest life insurance to make sure if one of us dies, the other is not out on the street and dependent on the govt, and we have started l-t care insurance to make sure we never have to depend on the state if we become incapacitated. So I'd say we were working, pretty responsible about keeping ourself from burdening the younger generation (who, we observe, think that clubbing every night and paying $15 to park and $12 a drink and never saving two nickels to rub together is A-OK). We do not count on having Social Security, even though we have paid into it our whole lives and will never live to collect even as much as we put in, never mind any interest.
So please spare me about how the boomers are so selfish. Many are very self-absorbed, but everyone I know has at least planned to be self sufficient unto death.
From my observation, it is the well-heeled seniors who have been in at the ground floor, paid $20K for a house now worth $2 million, have unlimited gold-plated Medicare at taxpayer expense, lots of stocks and bonds that have appreciated over the years, and still want us "selfish" boomers still slogging away to pay for their drugs, when they spend more on restaurant than prescriptions per year anyway, according to the stats. Talk about entitlement. The over 70s crowd is the wealthiest demographic in the country, and it's never enough.
It presents an interesting scenario. A presidential order would have to occur (because congress isn't going to pass a open door to SS for illegals)...and half-sized bucket you currently have would be quart-sized...thus the disaster of SS running out of money would finally occur.
But on the other side of the coin...currently when these illegals contribute cash to the SS bucket...it just lays there....never to be used, and the Feds know that. So its an extra cushion sitting there for us to use.
We all need to face facts here. The minority in this country is finally shifting...it will not be blacks as the minority...it will be Latinos. And in the way that blacks and democrats used each other for political purposes...the fear for Republicans is that Latinos and Democrats will use each other. When you get down to Latinos objectives though...they are a conservitive group, connected to some degree to the Catholic church, and believing in the American dream....which makes their cause worthly of the Republican party. They will become a major force in state politics in both Texas and California...which are big electoral states. My guess is that either Bush or the next Republican president will waiver all the illegals...thus triggering the SS mess. I'm already betting on that.
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