Posted on 06/17/2006 12:19:17 PM PDT by DeweyCA
I doubt that the new board members were involved in a conspiracy to help the ACLU claim large sums of attorney fees. That seems outlandish to me. But it is scandalous that so much public money is drained, just because of some stupid mistake the previous Dover board made.
Two Jobs make private school possible in my home.
Ping...It seems to me the new board did not rescind the ID policy of the old board specifically because they wanted to have a court decision that was obviously going to be against the policy. If there was no decision, a future board could bring it back. But now it seems like the IDer's are coming up with conspiracy theories that it was all about getting $$ to the ACLU via legals fees if there was a court decision instad of an out of court settlement.
Ping...It seems to me the new board did not rescind the ID policy of the old board specifically because they wanted to have a court decision that was obviously going to be against the policy. If there was no decision, a future board could bring it back. But now it seems like the IDer's are coming up with conspiracy theories that it was all about getting $$ to the ACLU via legals fees if there was a court decision instad of an out of court settlement.
It wasn't a mistake, it was a deliberate action.
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You remember correctly. I'll see if I can find an old thread on this issue, but it's clear that the important thing was to get an injunction against the unconstitutional policy. A mere withdrawal of the policy at that point would have accomplished nothing, and the legal fees would still have been awarded. There was no way to stop that. This is typical Discovery Institute spin.
FYI.
The ACLU is going to be paid 'in full' one of these days....
Note that the Thomas More Institute (or whatever its name is) shopped around the idea of instituting an "intelligent design" curriculum to many school boards. Dover is the one that agreed to test things for Thomas Moore. Tommy and Dover went into the situation looking for a trial; they got one. Unfortunately, the Dover witnesses were less than truthful (among other failings); one did adumbrate the Kennedy defense (lying because of drug addiction), but that didn't work in this case. Tommy and Dover lost.
School districts should be wary of law firms shopping curriculia to them.
It also came out at the trial that the school board's own attorney advised against their policy of pushing ID into the science classes, because it was likely to result in litigation. The school board was so crazed that they ignored their own lawyer's advice. But the Discovery Institute's post-trial spin doesn't mention uncomfortable details like that. To them, it's all an ACLU plot.
Some plot, considering that it was conceived and carried out by the Discovery Institute and that Thomas Moore law firm, with the eager cooperation of an idiotic school board. So it's all the ACLU's fault. This is one of the few times in living memory that the ACLU has been on the correct side of an issue. (I think they also filed a brief on behalf of Rush in his recent troubles.)
Very neat, and obvious now that's it's been pointed out. Thank you.
Advocating the use of the First Amendment to censor schools is the stupidest idea of the science establishment since the Inquisition.
It wasn't crazed conservatives who used activist judges to run prayer and religious ideas out of public schools, it was far left liberals who think like the devious Barry Lynn and the ACLU.
I wouldn't be too eager to accept the activist revisons of the Constitution that the left began to enact during and after the 1940s.
They ignored nearly 200 years of American legal history in doing so.
Of course, they did their judicial activist magic with impunity for 30 years using the likes of Brennan, Blackmun and Earl Warren.
Now that their logic has been proven to be faulty and disagrees with legal history and intent, the left has admitted that they ignore intent.
So now, in order to justify their obvious disagreement with historical legal intent, they have begun to openly claim that the Constitution is only an ACLU approved, living, breathing, judge-legislated document that can be ignored and revised according to the whims of a liberal judge. (and their activist revisionist rulings remain.)
The ACLU - America's Gestapo
" the stupidest idea of the science establishment since the Inquisition."
The Inquisition was an idea of the science establishment?
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