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Ann Coulter Hurts the Cause
The American Thinker ^ | 6 15 06 | J.R. Dunn

Posted on 06/15/2006 10:12:05 AM PDT by Kitten Festival

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To: Kitten Festival

I respectively disagree. Ann Coulter does NOT hurt her cause or our cause when she restricts herself to going after people as well-deserving of meciless condemnation as the Jersey Girls or Murtha. Even if you quibble with her particular choice of words, you'd have to be INSANE to feel any sympathy for the Jersey Girls or Murtha because Ann might have been SLIGHTLY too mean to them, and the insane are going to vote the straght Democrat ticket anyway. It is IMHO useful to be reminded occasionally just exactly how scummy the Jersey Girls were and are even if you wish to stipulate that Ann exaggerated it a bit. After all she is NOT an elected official, like her hero Senator McCarthy, who can justly be held to a higher standard.

Only when she goes after the clearly UNDESERVING with such savagery, like for example SCOTUS nominees Myers and Roberts, does she hurt her cause and our cause.


41 posted on 06/15/2006 10:33:00 AM PDT by FredTownWard
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To: samtheman
That's what Coulter was highlighting.

The more I think about this, the more I realize that Coulter had to go as "far" as she did in order to make her point -- her absolutely 100% correct point. Nothing less would have done it.

It took a startling, no-nonsense statement to expose how victimology plays a major part in the Left's arguments. If Coulter had pointed this out in any less bold a way, it wouldn't have had an impact. It might not have been mentioned at all.

But now, everyone's talking about "victims." Even the drive-by media. And as Coulter pointed out last night on the Tonight Show, the next time leftists want to trot out a victim, it's going to be a little tougher. I think Ann did us all a great service.

42 posted on 06/15/2006 10:33:19 AM PDT by Glenmerle
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To: Kitten Festival
Ann Coulter Hurts the Cause

True, but at least she's prettier than Michael Moore.

43 posted on 06/15/2006 10:33:48 AM PDT by Oztrich Boy ("You can either accept science and face reality, or live in a childish dream world" - Lisa Simpson)
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To: Kitten Festival
Ahem, despite the anti-Ann sentiments displayed here ...
Rules are in fact ... Rules!

There. Much better.

44 posted on 06/15/2006 10:34:00 AM PDT by BlueNgold (Feed the Tree .....)
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To: Kitten Festival
JR Dunn is so full of mud it ain't funny. Dunn seems to think the MSM should be calling all of the shots and that Coulter hurts all conservative causes by exposing the biases the MSM utilizes to advance the dimowits' agenda. Maybe Dunn should read the book she wrote before commenting as it is obvious to me that Dunn never finished the book, nor understood what was written. Dunn sure doesn't speak for me in any way, shape or form!
45 posted on 06/15/2006 10:34:15 AM PDT by geezerwheezer (get up boys, we're burnin' daylight!!!)
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To: Kitten Festival

Halfway through her book right now. Simply put - this guy is WRONG!


46 posted on 06/15/2006 10:36:16 AM PDT by Scarchin (www.classdismissedblog.com.)
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To: FredTownWard

I didn't have a problem with her going after the scotus nominees. She wanted conservative appointments. They jury is still out, but I'm still hopeful Roberts is going to be good, though I have a feeling he's going to become the new swing vote.

And this... did you support Myers? Did you think she was an appropriate nomination? Did you really want to be dragged through the mud during confirmation hearings and then face the President's own party rejecting her? Puhleaze. She had to be one of the weakest nominees in history.


47 posted on 06/15/2006 10:36:59 AM PDT by ichabod1 (Let us not flinch from identifying liberalism as the opposition party to God.)
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To: Kitten Festival
Until last week when Ann Coulter, acting unilaterally

Acting unilaterally?

and it cannot be repeated often enough that McCarthy bagged nobody – the Party infiltrators had been cleaned out by the time he showed up

Really? Venona cables anyone?

blah blah blah.....

The rest of the article barely mentions Coulter. Be nice to them, yeah that's worked so well for so long.

48 posted on 06/15/2006 10:37:44 AM PDT by bad company (The fight will not be the way you want it to be. The fight will be the way it is.)
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To: Spiff
...the MSM would have found something else in the book to sensationalize...

Concur.

By the way, it's pretty much all over now. The left has dashed itself against the Rock of Coulter and expended it's energy.

49 posted on 06/15/2006 10:38:05 AM PDT by Doctor Raoul (Liberals saying "We Support The Troops" is like OJ looking for the real killers.)
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To: Kitten Festival

WHo's J.R. Dunn and why should I listen to him?


50 posted on 06/15/2006 10:38:52 AM PDT by Doctor Raoul (Liberals saying "We Support The Troops" is like OJ looking for the real killers.)
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To: Glenmerle

"It took a startling, no-nonsense statement to expose how victimology plays a major part in the Left's arguments. "

Excellent point Glenmerle! Right on the money.

Ann did indeed incorporate her usual thoughtful delivery strategy, she can be my lawyer anytime. Nice to see the truly clever ones manipulating the liberal media for a change, instead of the other way around. Brilliant!


51 posted on 06/15/2006 10:39:21 AM PDT by wvobiwan (If you're not part of the solution, you're obviously a liberal Democrat.)
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To: Doctor Raoul
By the way, it's pretty much all over now. The left has dashed itself against the Rock of Coulter and expended it's energy.

Giving her untold amounts of free publicity in the process. Idiots.

Guess what I'm getting for Father's Day.

52 posted on 06/15/2006 10:39:39 AM PDT by Spiff ("They start yelling, 'Murderer!' 'Traitor!' They call me by name." - Gael Murphy, Code Pink leader)
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To: bad company
the Party infiltrators had been cleaned out by the time he showed up

Yeah, that's why the State Department is STILL lousy with them, and now they've compromised the CIA too. Ought to just disband both of those orgs now. They're just money pits with no possibility of anything good coming out of them. Esp. CIA.

53 posted on 06/15/2006 10:40:44 AM PDT by ichabod1 (Let us not flinch from identifying liberalism as the opposition party to God.)
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To: Kitten Festival

Ann still calls a spade a spade and not a spoon.

Good for her and I hope she shouts it from the Mountaintops.


54 posted on 06/15/2006 10:41:07 AM PDT by Leatherneck_MT (In a world where Carpenters come back from the dead, ALL things are possible.)
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To: Kitten Festival
I think Coulter's greatest service is taking the libs' accusatory method and stuffing it right back down their throats.

Most conservatives begin and end the day on the defensive, and get suckered into trying to act like nice guys which detracts from the seriousness of the message.

The left accuses the right of religious bigotry, theocracy, etc. Ann doesn't try to unpack that argument. She says, no, you freaks are the religious zealots who impose your beliefs with government power, and here are hundreds of pages showing just how so.

Most libs when hearing mealymouthed conservative defenses walk away thinking that convervatives are just playing a rhetorical game, and trying to justify the unjustifiable. The right needs lots more Ann Coulter and a lot less David Brooks, and other dweebs who feel compelled to nuance and apologize for every stance they take. Offer no quarter, no apology, no rhetorical points, and no excuses or understanding for the outrages of the left.

55 posted on 06/15/2006 10:45:45 AM PDT by Monti Cello
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To: Doctor Raoul

Right....By the way..what cause are they referring
to....Candidaes..agenda..philosphy??? Ann can hold
her own..without the wobblies worrying about her
liberal bashing...last time I looked...Bush was being
bashed by many pundits, including the ones for the
cause..whatever the hell that means?? Jake


56 posted on 06/15/2006 10:45:48 AM PDT by sanjacjake
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To: Kitten Festival
They’d shot their bolt, they had their fifteen minutes and more, and that was the end of it. Until last week when Ann Coulter, acting unilaterally, put them back on the front pages

They weren't on the front page because the MSM had put St. Cindy on there instead.

57 posted on 06/15/2006 10:46:25 AM PDT by KarlInOhio (Never ask a Kennedy if he'll have another drink. It's nobody's business how much he's had already.)
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To: wvobiwan
"Since when is civility in the face of treason a requirement?"

Oh, now. Let's not ask that question. After all, there are loads of high-minded moralists, craven infiltrators, and other nitwits about who insist that handing political and economic control of the United States to a bunch of Stalinist fanatics should, you know, be handled with the utmost delicacy.

58 posted on 06/15/2006 10:47:42 AM PDT by Reactionary (The Barking of the Native Moonbat is the Sound of Moral Nitwittery)
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To: Monti Cello
"Most conservatives begin and end the day on the defensive, and get suckered into trying to act like nice guys which detracts from the seriousness of the message."

Now, now. One must never, ever go on offense with the Leftist fanatics. One must, out of due courtesy, always be on defense. One must always be ineffective. Politeness demands it, don't you know?

That is the message the infiltrators and nitwits promote. The real reason Coulter is so "controversial" on FR is because she is effective, because she doesn't accept the Leftist template for conservative defeat.

59 posted on 06/15/2006 10:52:23 AM PDT by Reactionary (The Barking of the Native Moonbat is the Sound of Moral Nitwittery)
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To: ichabod1

I wouldn't have had a problem with her legitimately criticizing the SCOTUS nominees; I DID have a problem with her calling Roberts a "closet Souter" and with her treating Harriet Myers basically like the Left treats Paula Jones, Linda Tripp, Juanita Broderick, Katherine Harris, and Ann Coulter. Even if you disagreed with the choice to nominate them, they didn't deserve to be treated like pond scum because they aren't. Actual pond scum, like for example the Jersey Girls or Murtha, is a different matter.


60 posted on 06/15/2006 10:53:30 AM PDT by FredTownWard
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