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Coulter calls 9/11 widows "witches" (Lying Headline from Reuters)
Reuters via Yahoo! News ^ | June 7, 2006 | Claudia Parsons

Posted on 06/07/2006 4:51:37 PM PDT by new yorker 77

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To: Syncro
Heh heh, well get out there and right a book!

I'm not jealous that she's done it.

I'm jealous that she can.

Shalom.

541 posted on 06/07/2006 11:36:07 PM PDT by ArGee (The Ring must not be allowed to fall into Hillary's hands!)
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To: Lancey Howard
Judging by the "Jersey Girls" smearing of the President for the last 4 years, and Coulter's pushback, they all seem to have more balls than the sissified on FR.

Ann and these women can take care of themselves.

But the sniveling whiners here can't, lol!
542 posted on 06/07/2006 11:36:36 PM PDT by roses of sharon
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To: stands2reason
There is a huge difference between supporting these women and making baseless attacks on them that make them look like victims in the eyes of the clueless all over again.

Saying that, "For all we know these women's husbands might have been planning divorce," isn't a baseless attack, it's a shift of the argument. If she claimed that any man in his right mind would be planning to divorce, that would be baseless attack.

What Ann has done is the same thing Terry Schiavo's supporters did. She called into question the right of these women to speak for their dead husbands in a way that benefitted them tremendously. The question, "Are you really greaving or are you just an opportunist?" is a valid question. In a more civil time, the question might have been phrased, "Have you no shame?"

It is unfortunate that she has to use such extreme tactics to get the American people to think, but not everyone is a FReeper. If you haven't noticed, the typical American has all but forgotten how to think. They need the thought equivalent of CPR to get their brains going again. Conservative leaders COULD use Ann's book as a platform to launch a true debate if they weren't so afraid.

Shalom.

543 posted on 06/07/2006 11:41:37 PM PDT by ArGee (The Ring must not be allowed to fall into Hillary's hands!)
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To: new yorker 77
The hour is late and I've just spent the last few of them wading through some 530 posts, so I'll just lump a whole bunch of comments together.

First, the Jersey Girl comments are a couple of paragraphs out of a whole book that will be all of two days old tomorrow. I, (as well as most of you, I'm willing to guess) have yet to acquire a copy, let alone read it cover to cover. It is the Drive-by Media, the Fourth Estate that has become the Fifth Column, that chose these paragraphs in an attempt to smear Ann and her message, as well as us nebbishes. In doing so, the Antique Media has made a colossal mistake. To all of you who think that this single bit of hyperbole harms the message, consider the following...

Ann Coulter. One either loves her or hates her or may never have heard of her. Those of us who are CoulterBotts would get the book even if there were NO mention of its existence in the MSM. The Moonbats would have the same reaction to it as Dracula does to Crosses. Sadly, a large percentage of the population is going "Ann who?".

Along comes the MSM smear machine and now Ann and her book are getting noticed by a lot of those people otherwise would have ignored it. A good chunk of those people will at least check it out of the library.

When they do take the time to read the WHOLE book and have a chance to digest Ann's entire thesis, I suspect almost nobody will come away thinking that the Jersey Girl paragraph negates the rest of the body of work.

Let me close by observing that Ann does not operate in a vacuum. There is a whole range of pundits whose styles range from scholarly and reasoned to fiery and passionate and there is room for them all in the pantheon of ideas.

Myself, I'm a 9/11 conservative. Once upon a time I was a Moonbat. I hated Rush, but I listened. Post 9/11 I found myself agreeing with him more and more. I found Fox News and Free Republic, O'Reilly, Hannity and Glenn Beck, and of course, Ann. Thanks to all who helped me turn from the dark side, if I could do it, I think a lot more can too. Goodnight.

544 posted on 06/08/2006 12:14:37 AM PDT by ADemocratNoMore (Jeepers, Freepers, where'd 'ya get those sleepers?. Pj people, exposing old media's lies.)
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To: Enterprise
"I disagree. These witches are in the Sheehan class."

Cindy Sheehan is a more recent example of what Ann is talking about- democrats using "victims" i.e. widows or grieving mothers to express a political point, in order to silence ALL debate.

Ann did a good job of explaining herself on H & C- agree or disagree with her tactics, she made her point. She said she's fed up with liberals using any means to silence opposition. (And her response to Hillary's "outrage" knocked it right out of the park- IMHO).

(Ann needs to watch out for the drive-by media-They are using 10 second sound bytes saying that she's attacking the 9/11 widows- making it sound like she's attacking ALL 9/11 widows' not "the Jersey girls").

No one reads Ann Coulter's books expecting her to be warm and fuzzy. She plays hard ball. Without insults-She could have maybe said that the widows and Sheehan are using the status given to them, (by Democrats),- because, their husbands/or son, died,- in order to further their own political agendas. They are now millionaires. They are now celebrities. They do appear to be enjoying the attention they are getting. However, if she put it this way- without insulting them- I believe the level of "outrage" would have been the same.

One important point she made last night, on H & C , was where she pointed out how cruel liberals are to continuously let vicious killers out of prison.

The brutal rape and murder of Tiffany Sauer at the hands of a multiple offender,(-recently released from prison), is a perfect illustration of liberal viciousness that is both dangerous and malignant.
Where is the media/public outrage over this?

545 posted on 06/08/2006 12:55:14 AM PDT by Pajamajan (Benedict Arnold and Jack Murtha served in the US military.)
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To: stands2reason
You mean you were turned on to the Democrats until Carville and Begala came around? See, I was never turned on to the Democrats, even before these two idiots reared their ugly heads. But I'm glad you did finally get turned off to the Democrats and came around to our side.
546 posted on 06/08/2006 3:34:10 AM PDT by dmw
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To: NCC-1701

As I said, Ann Coulter doesn't need backup!

I agree that her presentation (in print or in person) is not particularly ladylike or refined. Fine, she doesn't have to be. She's making an impression that wouldn't be made if she said, "Bless your heart," picked up her embroidery, and went home. I'm not called to imitate her, but I respect her.


547 posted on 06/08/2006 3:41:55 AM PDT by Tax-chick (I am a daughter of God, a child of the King, a holy fire burning with His love.)
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To: GOP_Muzik

My comment is to point out the absurdity of the righteous indignation at Ann's comments while ignoring the hateful overthetop slurs and slams at all things republican.


548 posted on 06/08/2006 3:54:40 AM PDT by OldFriend (I Pledge Allegiance to the Flag.....and My Heart to the Soldier Who Protects It.)
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To: ishabibble
IMO, the Jersey Girls and Cindy Sheehan are of the same ilk.

Exploited by vultures. In the end they traded their tragedy for a few minutes of adulation by the America hating media.

549 posted on 06/08/2006 3:57:20 AM PDT by OldFriend (I Pledge Allegiance to the Flag.....and My Heart to the Soldier Who Protects It.)
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To: hocndoc
The most disturbing aspect of these widows is that they were exploited by vultures on the left at their most vulnerable time.

Senator Toricelli moved in on Lisa Beamer, encouraging her to write a guest editorial in the NYTimes.

She encouraged voters to support Toricelli's bid for re-election.

The very next day Toricelli withdrew from the race due to allegations of corruption.

550 posted on 06/08/2006 4:02:26 AM PDT by OldFriend (I Pledge Allegiance to the Flag.....and My Heart to the Soldier Who Protects It.)
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To: Pajamajan
I agree. I've seen clips of mother Sheehan and it is apparent that she is truly enjoying herself. Regarding the liberals putting victims out front, here is a post I did on the subject:

"The left understands the value of using "shields." Communists used civilians as "shields" in Korea. In modern day politics, communists - I mean liberals, take people like the Jersey Girls and put them out front to attack President Bush. Then, because they are "victims," they aren't supposed to be attacked. It is a vile dirty tactic, but hey, that's what liberals are for. I am glad that my lovely Ann is brilliant enough to understand this disgusting tactic that they constantly use, and that she responds appropriately. Forum decorum prevents me from saying even harsher things about the Jersey Girls."

And Ann is on target about thugs running loose to kill and kill again. The left works hard to keep these people free. And as others have noted before, the left works hard to disarm the people and make sure that violent thugs intimidate us. And the media are hardly outraged that Sauer's killer has a lengthy felony record. The left did its job. They freed a dangerous felon so that another family feels that deep sharp crippling grief that comes with losing someone precious. The left stands proud once again.

551 posted on 06/08/2006 4:13:50 AM PDT by Enterprise (Let's not enforce laws that are already on the books, let's just write new laws we won't enforce.)
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To: dmw

Not those two particularly, but their type of nastiness.


552 posted on 06/08/2006 4:19:22 AM PDT by stands2reason (You cannot bully or insult conservatives into supporting your guy.)
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To: sinkspur
Decent, thoughtful human beings thing Coulter is outrageous. I'm in that group.

I'm with you Sink.

I'm the last person to cast the first stone, but I wonder how many people rah-rah'ing Coulter consider themselves to be God-fearin' Christian types.
553 posted on 06/08/2006 4:40:53 AM PDT by Conservative til I die
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To: stands2reason
A big difference between Ann and Michael Moore is that Ann has yet to be caught in a lie, much less an honestly mistaken inaccuracy.

The big difference between her and Al Franken is that Franken is almost all insult and regurgiated claims, and rarely says anything of substance. Ann's insults come in the midst of well-researched points and new perspectives.

I am glad she is on our side.

554 posted on 06/08/2006 4:56:51 AM PDT by Tribune7
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To: Conservative til I die
Ann is like an Old Testament prophet--she tells the truth, and she tells it bluntly. Sure, she is provocative, but that is what she does, and quite frankly, she does it pretty good. I personally could not act the way she does, but I don't think it is as outrageous as some of you are making it out to be. Some of the widows made commercials for Kerry and have gotten very partisan. That's their right to do so, but being widows doesn't make them immune from criticism. Ann is the "shock and awe bomb" for the conservatives. We don't have many like her on our side, but I think it helps to have at least one like her in our camp--IMO.
555 posted on 06/08/2006 5:26:01 AM PDT by dmw
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To: sinkspur
Me: Meanwhile, I notice that you do not hesitate for a new york second to make a personal attack Coulter regarding her physique.

You: You have no problem with Bones calling the marital status of these women into question, but, God forbid somebody point out the anorexic appearance of your heroine.

Were you born last night?

Oh, BS. I have no problems with either. It is you who is an absolute hypocrite here. If the War Widders or Coulter want to play politics, they can expect beanballs. That's just the way it is, has been, and always shall be.

These Dem party hacks should be granted no more consideration when they try to retreat behind their husband's corpses than Jesse Jackson deserves when he hides behind his skin color. When someone is a publicly vicious political critic, be it Ann Coulter, Cindy Sheehan, the Jersey Girls, or JJ, the "victim" card loses all authority. Don't dish it if you can't take it.

And, let's come to an agreement. You don't try the foolish rhetoric of accusing me of blind hero worship, and I won't point out your lickspittle subservience to the Professional Grieving Victim agenda. Deal?

556 posted on 06/08/2006 6:45:22 AM PDT by LexBaird (Tyrannosaurus Lex, unapologetic carnivore)
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To: ArGee
I hate jumping in on post 113 when there are over 500, but I think she has actually done us a favor.

I am actually thankful you did. Although I understand your reticence.

Your well reasoned comment is the first defense in this thread that honestly makes sense. I think you have a very good point. I may actually have to change my position.

557 posted on 06/08/2006 6:46:34 AM PDT by pollyannaish
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To: LexBaird
Coulter is now, officially, old news. Zarqawi has taken her off the front pages, relegated her to the discount bin, made her little spat with the 9/11 widows inconsequential.

Zarqawi is dead. Let us rejoice, and be glad!!

558 posted on 06/08/2006 6:48:40 AM PDT by sinkspur ( Don Cheech. Vito Corleone would like to meet you......Vito Corleone.....)
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To: Central Scrutiniser
Cheap theatrics are no way to discuss politics.

Cheap theatrics are 80% of politics. It pays to have some on our side, rather than ceding every encounter to some theoretical "high road".

559 posted on 06/08/2006 8:02:15 AM PDT by LexBaird (Tyrannosaurus Lex, unapologetic carnivore)
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To: sinkspur
Zarqawi is dead. Let us rejoice, and be glad!!

I'm with you there, bro.

560 posted on 06/08/2006 8:08:54 AM PDT by LexBaird (Tyrannosaurus Lex, unapologetic carnivore)
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