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Islamic Radicalism in Mexico: The Threat from South of the Border
Jamestown Foundation ^ | 6 June 2006 | Chris Zambelis

Posted on 06/02/2006 11:32:21 PM PDT by MinuteWoman1776

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To: hershey
"In fact they're busy reworking vocabulary...we won't read 'the US', but 'the North American Union' or its equivalent."

Notice how there's an attempt to call everyone in North/South/Central America "Americans".
21 posted on 06/03/2006 4:06:41 AM PDT by Anvilhead (When CW2 starts, you'll all be welcome at Anvilheadtopia. (Firearms Welcome))
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To: Spruce

undocumented guests = thieves who break into your home
undocumented workers = illegals who break into your country
undocumented bank customers = bank robbers


22 posted on 06/03/2006 4:10:34 AM PDT by GOPJ ("What we have learned from history is that we haven't learned from history." B.Disraeli)
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To: MinuteWoman1776

>>the Murabitun argue that Catholicism represents a vestige of European imperialism that is directly responsible for the destruction of Mayan culture.

It was a culture that was crying out for destruction, and good for Cortez and his men for doing so.

Human sacrifice as a primary basis for a society/religion/culture is an ugly thing.


23 posted on 06/03/2006 4:17:06 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Guns themselves are fairly robust; their chief enemies are rust and politicians) (NRA)
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To: rageaholic

When you use a religious analogy like that, you undercut your argument.

Osama Bin Laden is their Fuhrer.


24 posted on 06/03/2006 4:21:32 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Guns themselves are fairly robust; their chief enemies are rust and politicians) (NRA)
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To: Spruce
Islam should be outlawed in America. Furthermore, all practitioners of islam should be deported or jailed.

No one is asking for Muslims to be painted with one brush - and yes, there are a lot more peaceful Muslims than there are terrorists. As mentioned on an earlier thread - what if 5% of Christians supported bombing abortion clinics? Would the left be screaming bloody murder about murderous right wing nuts? You can bet on it. But if 5% of Muslims support AlQaeda, there's not a peep out of liberals. We have a problem. But your solution is not the answer. Muslims have the right to worship as they see fit - if they're Americans they have all the rights you have and all the rights I have and that's how it should be. Now, the illegals? That's a different story. Those people need to go home.

25 posted on 06/03/2006 4:21:36 AM PDT by GOPJ ("What we have learned from history is that we haven't learned from history." B.Disraeli)
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To: MinuteWoman1776

BRING BACK THR INQUISITION!!!


26 posted on 06/03/2006 4:25:19 AM PDT by ZULU (Non nobis, non nobis, Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam. God, guts, and guns made America great.)
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To: M. Espinola
" One has to really wonder how many jihadist killers have already mingled in with all the other illegal aliens and are lurking & observing coupled with awaiting further 'orders' from Tehran, Damascus or al-Qaida?"

For me this is the crux of the immigration issue. With uncontrolled borders and I'm not just talking about the south, you can't hope to truly maintain a lawful state of affairs.

I know those for open borders will scream that the 9/11 bastards were here on over stayed visas and they're right about that. However, how can we expect ICE or local LEO's to track and find visa violators when the streets are full of illegals and you can't question those who appear not to belong.

By first locking down the borders and stopping the entry of criminals and those with questionable backgrounds, you would then free up our people to sort out the trash already here. Will we ever get them all, of course not, but we can make one hell of a difference and increase not only our security but reinstate the value of American Citizenship.

As for a north american union/ integration with mexico, it would be myopic to believe that the borders of this country would not change over time. I would love to expand them to include portions of mexico and canada, if those people and ours CHOOSE to become one. It can be done and done properly by granting territorial or commonwealth status and then increasing education and infrastructure standards over time thus instilling the true privilege it is to be American.

The current state of forced integration being perpetrated by Washington and mexico can't work, it tears down too many American institutions and will balkanize the region rather than uniting it. It will result in war and it doesn't have too, which makes me question just what does Washington, really want.

27 posted on 06/03/2006 4:35:37 AM PDT by Kakaze (American: a Citizen of the United States of America........not just some resident of said continent)
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To: M. Espinola

Therein lies the problem there are many of us who are concerned about this invasion of mexicans who are supposedly "wonderful family people who just want a job".
Any similarity to the truth is purely coincidental.

The U.S. had enough of our own poor but to allow or invite 20 million and counting of poor people from mexico who came here ILLEGALLY and may be converts to islamism is outrageous. And to give away all those benefits reserved for American poor subsidized by American taxpayers is criminal.

The 1200 illegals they arrested recently were not only let go but they have an atty representing them to get their jobs back. Legal citizens cannot afford an atty to get their jobs back but those here illegally have an atty and are suing our country and are allowed to? Is this a bad nightmare or a joke? A very bad joke perpetrated on Americans except none of us find this funny.

We that are truly concerned about this great country and are disgusted with having to pay to support a bunch of lawbreakers and their employers are referred to by some as
"borderbots", "whackos", "immigration hysterics", when in truth those calling us names need to see the scam perpetrated on all Americans by socialist liberals, only liberals are inviting these good for nothing illiterates into this country with the main goal of destroying this country so why are Republicans and conservatives at that
calling us names and fighting against us??

NONE of this debauchery makes any sense.


28 posted on 06/03/2006 4:44:47 AM PDT by stopem (God Bless the U.S.A the Troops who protect her, and their Commander In Chief !)
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To: Kakaze

And there is nothing at all we can do about this debauchery.
It's happening right before our eyes and yet there are some here that call us whacko's. We are truly concerned about what we are seeing happening, are feeling frustration to see this great nation overtaken by a group of foreign national extremist radicals and we are called whackos by supposed Republicans. Feel like we are living in the twilight zone?


29 posted on 06/03/2006 4:49:58 AM PDT by stopem (God Bless the U.S.A the Troops who protect her, and their Commander In Chief !)
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To: MinuteWoman1776
I'm with you: legalize pot. fight terrorism!!! lets focus on the real threats, hugh?

But W finds it more important to waste time on the damn Marriage Amendment!

30 posted on 06/03/2006 5:01:31 AM PDT by jslade (Liberalism ALWAYS accomplishes the exact opposite of it's stated intent!)
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To: MinuteWoman1776
Islam will do for (or to) Latin America what communism never could.

Build the wall.

31 posted on 06/03/2006 5:03:48 AM PDT by Jim Noble (And you know what I'm talkin' 'bout!)
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To: MinuteWoman1776
The anti-capitalist message of the Murabitun in particular also resonates with some of the impoverished locals.

In other words, "anti-U.S." There are a lot more similarities between islam and mayan than between Christianity and mayan - theocracy being at the top.

32 posted on 06/03/2006 5:34:19 AM PDT by gotribe (It's not a religion.)
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To: FreedomPoster
the Murabitun argue that Catholicism represents a vestige of European imperialism that is directly responsible for the destruction of Mayan culture.

It was a culture that was crying out for destruction, and good for Cortez and his men for doing so.

Wasn't it the Aztecs that Cortez took on?

33 posted on 06/03/2006 5:40:06 AM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: DuncanWaring

You are correct, and I stand corrected on my previous post. Oops!

Well, at least I knew the Incas weren't it! ;-)


34 posted on 06/03/2006 5:58:10 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Guns themselves are fairly robust; their chief enemies are rust and politicians) (NRA)
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To: RushCrush
Really? And I thought the threat of a communist Mexico was worse...But what do I know?

(Venezuela, China....hello...anyone??? Bueller?)

George W. Bueller?

35 posted on 06/03/2006 6:16:22 AM PDT by Fruitbat
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To: MinuteWoman1776

Welcome to the Angry Conservative Forum... err....Free Republic.


36 posted on 06/03/2006 6:16:29 AM PDT by wolfcreek
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To: Spruce
Islam should be outlawed in America. Furthermore, all practitioners of islam should be deported or jailed.

It should be outlawed in America. But then again, laws don't seem to have much meaning in W's America anymore. To his credit, that's been trending that way for quite some time.

Either way, it's far too late for that. Who knows what will happen in this country when push comes to shove however.

37 posted on 06/03/2006 6:19:05 AM PDT by Fruitbat
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To: Jim Noble
"Islam will do for (or to) Latin America what communism never could. Build the wall."

Canadian cities along our northern border have huge Muslim populations. Perhaps we need a wall there, too?

38 posted on 06/03/2006 6:33:58 AM PDT by sageb1 (This is the Final Crusade. There are only 2 sides. Pick one.)
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To: MinuteWoman1776

"Given the evidence to date, however, any potential inroads by al-Qaeda into Mexico is not likely to come through ties with Mexico's Muslim community..."

Soooo, are these "inroads" more likely to come through ties
to Mexico's Jewish community???

Oh yes and instead of worrying about muslims we should spend
more money on Mexico's poor.....

Lunacy.


39 posted on 06/03/2006 6:37:21 AM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: sageb1

So, we need a Canadian wall to keep out the thousands of Canadians and their coyotes rushing furtively through the US borders?


40 posted on 06/03/2006 6:55:57 AM PDT by doberville
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