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REPORT: HUMAN-TO-HUMAN BIRD FLU SUSPECTED IN INDONESIA
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Posted on 05/23/2006 4:46:15 PM PDT by utvolsfan13

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To: Doe Eyes
If a person catches this flu, doesn't go to the doctor and does recover, its not noted.

True. These are only "confirmed" cases.

On the other hand, quite a few likely died from it and their numbers are not in these figures - the index case for this outbreak, for example. There have been many others who have died of symptoms but either came up negative or weren't properly tested before they died so weren't counted in the WHO numbers.

In widespread testing for antibodies from other outbreak areas, there are few, if any, people who show antibodies. In other words, there don't appear to be a lot of people who recovered who remain uncounted and hidden. Usually, when you get sick with this, you are really sick and end up in a hospital, usually on a respirator. It's not just a bad cough and a headache. So, statistically, they are not there. It doesn't mean there aren't some, though. Just probably not a lot.

21 posted on 05/23/2006 5:48:07 PM PDT by Gritty (We are dealing with a highly lethal virus that no one has natural immunity to-Dr Gerberding,CDC)
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To: Gritty

Just more Bird Flu Hysteria.Honey,would you pass the Bird Seed ?


22 posted on 05/23/2006 5:54:25 PM PDT by dbrew2u
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To: utvolsfan13

23 posted on 05/23/2006 6:01:38 PM PDT by heights
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To: steveegg
West Indians

Sorry, I'm a rookie when it comes to this panic mongering thing. Normally I ignore this stuff, and unless it's actually a problem in my face, don't give a da*n.

I prefere those problems I can shoot. ;)

24 posted on 05/23/2006 6:21:49 PM PDT by kAcknor (Don't flatter yourself.... It is a gun in my pocket.)
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To: MarcusTulliusCicero
My God! An actual statement of fact!

They didn't follow the first rule: Don't confuse the issue with facts!

25 posted on 05/23/2006 6:23:06 PM PDT by kAcknor (Don't flatter yourself.... It is a gun in my pocket.)
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To: Gritty; Doe Eyes
Excerpted from this article here.

"There are not a lot of mild, asymptomatic infections out there [with H5N1]. We're now aware of six studies involving over 5,000 close contacts of H5N1-infected people, in Indonesia, Vietnam, and Hong Kong, in which less than one person per thousand contacts had evidence of an H5N1 infection that was missed—that is, a mild infection."

26 posted on 05/23/2006 6:44:39 PM PDT by blam
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To: blam
Don't forget the asteroid impact forecasted for Thursday, 5-25-2006.

Well, that would be damn inconvenient. I have a doc appointment on the 25th. Or should I just go ahead and cancel.

27 posted on 05/23/2006 7:08:06 PM PDT by processing please hold (Be careful of charity and kindness, lest you do more harm with open hands than with a clinched fist)
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To: Judith Anne; 2ndreconmarine; Fitzcarraldo; Covenantor; Mother Abigail; EBH; Dog Gone; ...

Ping

Thanks, Judith Anne for the 'heads up'.


28 posted on 05/23/2006 7:24:41 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly.)
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To: DJtex

"The fatality rate is so scary: 6 of 7 dead. I read somewhere that the virus will have to get a bit milder to be really dangerous. If you kill 80-100% on contact, the flu will be limited to pockets of disease--like Ebola. Ebola kills so efficiently that it doesn't spread very effectively."

Funny how the authorities ignore this fact; it is like a back fire versus a prairie fire.

This particular crisis is driven by its popularity rather than its propensity.


29 posted on 05/23/2006 7:40:19 PM PDT by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, and writes again.)
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To: blam

I am going to be out of town that day, do you know which city?


30 posted on 05/23/2006 7:41:37 PM PDT by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, and writes again.)
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To: kAcknor
"WE ARE ALL GOING TO DIE!!!!"

No, maybe just many of us. We'll see.

31 posted on 05/23/2006 7:43:22 PM PDT by KoRn
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To: Smokin' Joe
Thanks for the *ping*, Joe!

WHO is obviously concerned about human-to-human transmission in Indonesia. Especially with close human interaction with pigs. But they seem to take their sweet time issuing orders to quarantine a region. I would feel a lot more comfortable if the WHO just recommended "no more flights into Sumatra" or wherever. WHO does not have to issue a quarantine order -- just give a recommendation.

But I expect they will wait around and stall until people start to die in neighboring countries.

32 posted on 05/23/2006 7:46:37 PM PDT by ex-Texan (Matthew 7:1 through 6)
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To: Old Professer
"I am going to be out of town that day, do you know which city?"

The French kook who predicted it said it would crash into the Atlantic and wipe out the east coast of the US. So...

33 posted on 05/23/2006 7:55:48 PM PDT by blam
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To: blam

"Don't forget the asteroid impact forecasted for Thursday, 5-25-2006."

Getting charcoal and grey poupon!


34 posted on 05/23/2006 8:23:58 PM PDT by Domestic Church (AMDG...)
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The reason (despite the lack of sympathy expressed by many on the post) this may be important is the specialty of the doctor who is now deceased.

WHO chief dies after emergency brain surgery

Lee, who spearheaded the UN health agency’s fight against the spread of bird flu and the preparations for a potential human influenza pandemic, died this morning, said South Korea’s Ambassador to Switzerland, Park Won-hwa. Lee was 61.

(happened on May 22, 2006)

What effect that will have on research is not known, but the sudden nature of his demise suggests there will be at least a little disorganization as things there get sorted out.

It is possible that the folks at WHO researching this can make a seamless and smooth transition, (hopefully they do) and I won't discount that possibility, but most organizations would take a little bit to get back up to speed.

It appears they are doing fairly well, considering.

35 posted on 05/23/2006 8:57:18 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly.)
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To: blam; Domestic Church
J. Orlin Grabee posted this news on his site repeatedly. A couple of weeks ago the originator of the report was interviewed by George Noory on Coast2Coast. Last week Grabee put up the report again in French after the original report was removed by the host site. Looks like the guy is being treated like Rodney Dangerfield.
36 posted on 05/23/2006 9:36:22 PM PDT by ex-Texan (Matthew 7:1 through 6)
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To: kAcknor
I prefere those problems I can shoot. ;)

Birds tend to go down real easy with birdshot.

37 posted on 05/24/2006 3:56:27 AM PDT by steveegg (Sen. Ted "Swimmer" Kennedy's vehicles have killed more people than V.P. Dick Cheney's guns)
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To: pax_et_bonum
Quarantine this area now.

It's very disheartening that, as soon as SARS was confirmed in Canada, the CDC came out against travel restrictions because of the potential for discrimination and stigmatizing vulnerable populations (really).

There is zero possibility that western governments will ban arrivals from SE Asia (which would work) until millions are dead here (after which, of course, it won't work).

38 posted on 05/24/2006 4:02:11 AM PDT by Jim Noble (And you know what I'm talkin' 'bout!)
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To: utvolsfan13

Run for your life!


39 posted on 05/24/2006 4:03:17 AM PDT by Doc Savage (Bueller?....Bueller?...Bueller?...Bueller?...Pelosi?...Pelosi?...Pelosi?...)
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To: ex-Texan
But they seem to take their sweet time issuing orders to quarantine a region.

It will never happen.

40 posted on 05/24/2006 4:06:21 AM PDT by Jim Noble (And you know what I'm talkin' 'bout!)
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