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Pay Gap: A Different Take (Government workers overpaid)
http://www.govexec.com/dailyfed/0506/051806pb.htm ^

Posted on 05/19/2006 4:25:10 PM PDT by lauriehelds

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To: Ditto

BTW, my experience with cellphone companies is that the government has been totally displaced from holding the number one position in customer abuse.


161 posted on 05/19/2006 7:23:39 PM PDT by muawiyah (-)
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To: Alissa

"Overpaid jobs: Actors, musicians, entertainers and athletes."


hahaha...that is funny...

They MAKE money....don't compare to Fed workers....


162 posted on 05/19/2006 7:24:04 PM PDT by dakine
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To: Poundstone
"Believe me, the taxpayers are getting their money's worth!"

Baloney. The government is a bloated beyond belief. We could eliminate 99% of federal "jobs" (including yours) and we'd all be better off.

163 posted on 05/19/2006 7:24:19 PM PDT by Godebert
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To: RinaseaofDs

I'm assuming they took those jobs AFTER retirement. If so, then that's their right. But someone who has dedicated their career to public service rarely has the same opportunities as someone who has dedicated their career to the private sector.

For the record, I'm a believer in a "cooling off" period.


164 posted on 05/19/2006 7:25:13 PM PDT by durasell (!)
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To: lauriehelds
A study of government salaries by a libertarian? Come on. That's like a study of the safety of handguns by Oprah Winfrey. An average salary of $100,178 in 2004? Sounds like he took the salaries of the 2004 GS payscale chart and averaged them. "Liberaltarians" obviously have a difficulty in distinguishing a stirred pot from smoking it.

Muleteam1

165 posted on 05/19/2006 7:25:25 PM PDT by Muleteam1
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To: RFEngineer
Interesting take on things. Most federal government employees (outside USPS) are first hired in their thirties. They have already advanced in their careers and have attained the specialized skills to do government jobs.

Were you perhaps canned?

166 posted on 05/19/2006 7:25:52 PM PDT by muawiyah (-)
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To: muawiyah

"I donated about 1700 hours worth of sick leave to the people of the United States as an "extra tax" when I retired. (Gad do I despise ungrateful gift recipients)."

You are ungrateful of the gift you received. A career insulated from the real world. What company outside of the fed gov't allows you to accumulate absurd amounts of "sick leave"?

You gripe about a gift that you were given, then claim that by giving it back you were making a sacrifice that was unappreciated.


167 posted on 05/19/2006 7:26:00 PM PDT by RFEngineer
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To: Darkwolf377
I made the mistake of thinking I was dealing with a rational person.

LOL!!! At least you realize your mistake, and you hopefully won't make it again. That WAS a government employee, after all.

168 posted on 05/19/2006 7:27:53 PM PDT by Hardastarboard (Why isn't there an "NRA" for the rest of my rights?)
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To: muawiyah

"Think about it ~ how would you have ended up being prosecuted in a federal court for fraudulently misusing them"

How many federal employees have ever faced this sort of prosecution? I'll tell you. It's probably close to zero.

I don't know for sure, of course, but neither do you. There is almost no enforcement of this sort of thing in the federal gov't, and you know it.


169 posted on 05/19/2006 7:28:59 PM PDT by RFEngineer
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To: RFEngineer

Sorry, it wasn't a gift but an "earned benefit". It was "taxed away" by legislation that did not apply to any other group of Americans.


170 posted on 05/19/2006 7:29:34 PM PDT by muawiyah (-)
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To: Hardastarboard

Odds are good that our complainant encountered a CONTRACT WORKER, and not a real government employee.


171 posted on 05/19/2006 7:30:51 PM PDT by muawiyah (-)
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To: RFEngineer
There's actually a great deal of enforcement. You just don't hear about it. Both the USPS Inspection Service and the Postal Inspector General's Office spy on suspected sick leave abusers as well as those on disability retirement (which the agency has to pay until the employee reaches regular retirement).

The private sector equivalent occurs when investigations are made into false workmen's compensation claims, but those usually target the doctors and not the workers.

172 posted on 05/19/2006 7:33:18 PM PDT by muawiyah (-)
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To: muawiyah

"Were you perhaps canned?"

Ha! another thing that almost never happens, unless of course you leave early. Most of your career was probably spent making sure that none of your peers left a minute before they were supposed to.

No, I quit because I decided a socialist system in which people got paid for existing, rather than performing was not for me.

You look a gift horse in the mouth. You should be more grateful to the people that allow you to retire in the style to which you almost certainly do not deserve based on the work you did as a civil servant.


173 posted on 05/19/2006 7:33:46 PM PDT by RFEngineer
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To: RFEngineer
Hmmm ~ most of my retirement comes from my 401(k) plan.

You were saying.............?.

174 posted on 05/19/2006 7:34:44 PM PDT by muawiyah (-)
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To: muawiyah

I've actually worked with a lot of government employees. Some are as bad as the stereotypes. Some of them are excellent. It just depends.


175 posted on 05/19/2006 7:35:58 PM PDT by Hardastarboard (Why isn't there an "NRA" for the rest of my rights?)
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To: muawiyah

"Sorry, it wasn't a gift but an "earned benefit". "

We're never going to find common ground here. No sense debating.

Would it make you feel better if I said "thanks for returning the 'earned benefit' to the taxpayer"?

I don't blame you for riding the gravy train for a career....some people feel entitled to do just that. Just don't complain about the ride, ok?


176 posted on 05/19/2006 7:37:45 PM PDT by RFEngineer
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To: Hardastarboard

Odds are almost any employer is going to end up with an average workforce.


177 posted on 05/19/2006 7:37:46 PM PDT by muawiyah (-)
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To: RFEngineer

I don't recall it being a "gravytrain".


178 posted on 05/19/2006 7:38:24 PM PDT by muawiyah (-)
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To: muawiyah

"Odds are almost any employer is going to end up with an average workforce"

No. The federal workforce self-selects for below average.....those who can often leave. Those who can't always stay.


179 posted on 05/19/2006 7:39:04 PM PDT by RFEngineer
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To: muawiyah

Odds are almost any employer is going to end up with an average workforce


If that were the case then there'd be no progress.


180 posted on 05/19/2006 7:39:15 PM PDT by durasell (!)
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