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North American Union to Replace USA? ("is this the plan?" alert!)
HumanEventsOnline.com ^ | 5/19/2006 | Jerome R. Corsi

Posted on 05/19/2006 6:56:03 AM PDT by Dark Skies

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To: cinives

Thanks, I appreciate you're letting me explain myself because I can see how my other post seemed unreasonable. I hope Mike Pence is able to make some headway with his plan--- I especially like how he tries to involve private employment agencies rather than create more useless bureaucracy http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1641186/posts.


1,261 posted on 06/08/2006 5:58:20 PM PDT by mjolnir ("All great change in America begins at the dinner table.")
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To: cinives
many call this facism ... and I think you are absolutely correct.

I've never looked at the definition of facism, but I will now. Thanks. I've had many others tell me the same.

1,262 posted on 06/08/2006 9:57:27 PM PDT by Rockitz (This isn't rocket science- Follow the money and you'll find the truth.)
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To: cinives
many call this facism...

After reading a bit, I think what we're seeing is corporatism as opposed to facism. I'm not sure we see all of the other characteristics, which are often included under the umbrella of facism.

1,263 posted on 06/08/2006 10:19:31 PM PDT by Rockitz (This isn't rocket science- Follow the money and you'll find the truth.)
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To: Rockitz
Interesting quote from someone who should know:

"The first stage of fascism should more appropriately be called Corporatism because it is a merger of State and corporate power" --Benito Mussolini (1883-1945), Fascist Dictator of Italy

1,264 posted on 06/09/2006 6:50:32 AM PDT by cinives (On some planets what I do is considered normal.)
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To: cinives; Rockitz; calcowgirl; nicmarlo; texastoo; William Terrell; Tolerance Sucks Rocks
"The first stage of fascism should more appropriately be called Corporatism because it is a merger of State and corporate power" --Benito Mussolini

Whenever you see the president or anyone in the federal government talk about public/private partnerships, this is exactly what they mean.
1,265 posted on 06/09/2006 5:33:44 PM PDT by hedgetrimmer ("I'm a millionaire thanks to the WTO and "free trade" system--Hu Jintao top 10 worst dictators)
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To: hedgetrimmer; Czar; Borax Queen; janetgreen
"The first stage of fascism should more appropriately be called Corporatism because it is a merger of State and corporate power" --Benito Mussolini
Whenever you see the president or anyone in the federal government talk about public/private partnerships, this is exactly what they mean.

Oh wow. I didn't know Mussolini said that. That's exactly what's going on in socialist USA.

1,266 posted on 06/09/2006 6:01:59 PM PDT by nicmarlo
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To: hedgetrimmer; Czar; calcowgirl; texastoo; Borax Queen
You may be interested in this article, which refers to much of what has been posted on this thread, and, of course, Corsi's articles:

The Religious Right Has Fled The Battlefield!
by Chuck Baldwin
June 9, 2006

...The battlefield where the devil has amassed his greatest forces and is thrusting his deadliest armies is the surrender of our national sovereignty and independence, and the creation of global government! Yes, Martha, the devil has targeted the United States for destruction, and he is using our own political leaders to do his diabolical work! Furthermore, unless God awakens His people, especially His preachers, America's fall will be swift, and few will even notice that it happened-until it's too late.

Because our national Christian leaders are content to revel in the lap of political cronyism with President Bush, they have abandoned their positions as watchmen on the wall. Instead of being watchmen and heralds of truth, they have become political lackeys and toadies for Bush. As a result, the message of truth must be carried by others. At the moment, I don't know anyone who is more faithfully engaged in the real battle for America than Jerome Corsi.

Many of you know Corsi as the man who co-authored the Number 1 New York Times best-seller, "Unfit for Command: Swift Boat Veterans Speak Out Against John Kerry." Corsi recently wrote two columns that every American should read. One was carried by Human Events Online (http://www.humaneventsonline.com/article.php?id=15233) and the other one was carried by World Net Daily (http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=50451). I urge my readers to read both of these columns.

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1,267 posted on 06/09/2006 6:57:04 PM PDT by nicmarlo
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To: cinives; hedgetrimmer
"The first stage of fascism should more appropriately be called Corporatism because it is a merger of State and corporate power" --Benito Mussolini (1883-1945), Fascist Dictator of Italy

So that's how it is, huh? Now some of the Homeland Security and NSA spying stuff is starting to make sense as well. Yep, the first steps of a totalitarian regime. McCain-Feingold fits the bill as well. Suppress 1st Amendment rights and protect the Proletariat. God help us!

1,268 posted on 06/09/2006 11:29:04 PM PDT by Rockitz (This isn't rocket science- Follow the money and you'll find the truth.)
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To: Rockitz
McCain-Feingold fits the bill as well

Don't forget the Telecommunications Act of 1996. Any political initiative part of 'reinventing government's tarted in the Clinton administration, plus Bush sr.'s executive order 'privatizing' American infrastructure are mechanisms to accomplish fascism in America today.
1,269 posted on 06/10/2006 7:02:26 AM PDT by hedgetrimmer ("I'm a millionaire thanks to the WTO and "free trade" system--Hu Jintao top 10 worst dictators)
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To: nicmarlo
Good link.

Thanks, nic.

1,270 posted on 06/10/2006 3:55:03 PM PDT by Czar ( StillFedUptotheTeeth@Washington)
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To: hedgetrimmer; Smartass; calcowgirl; texastoo; Czar; Borax Queen
Strategic Agreements with Manzanillo and Lazaro Cardenas,
Ports on the West Coast of Mexico

LAZARO CARDENAS

Another historic moment took place on March 22, 2005, when officials representing Kansas City and the Port of Lazaro Cardenas, Mexico, initiated a mutual effort to market and promote the shipment of goods from Lazaro Cardenas to Kansas City on a new trade route now referred to as the Lazaro Cardenas–Kansas City Corridor.

The Mexican port is becoming an alternate shipping route for Asian goods, as West Coast ports become increasingly congested. Lazaro Cardenas, on the southwest coast of Mexico, has capacity to expand its facilities, unlike West Coast ports, which are at capacity. Expansion at Lazaro Cardenas is not only beneficial to the port itself, but to Kansas City, which will see an increased amount of goods traveling on the corridor.

Two Worlds - One Route [pdf]

Lazaro Cardenas-Kansas City Transportation Corridor
Offers Opportunities for International Shippers;
Greater Economic Prosperity for North America

[page 4:]

In April 2005, Kansas City Southern completed purchase of a controlling interest in Transportacion Ferroviaria Mexicana (TFM), enabling TFM, The Kansas City Southern Railway and The Texas Mexican Railway Company to operate under common leadership, creating a seamless transportation system spanning the heart of North America known as "The Nafta Railway."

The acquisition created a single 1,300-mile railroad connecting the Midwestern United States, central Mexico and Mexico’s Pacific seaports.

The union of the three railroads will spur even greater investment in cross-border transportation infrastructure, implementation of advanced cargo tracing and tracking systems, and improved security. Kansas City Southern is installing Spanish language versions of its computer operating system (MCS) in an effort to increase train speeds, reduce waiting times at terminals and enable the free flow of locomotives and rail cars between the United States and Mexico via Kansas City Southern’s railroad bridge at Laredo, Texas.

[page 5:]

3. In 1997, Kansas City Southern and TMM joined forces to create Transportacion Ferroviaria Mexicana (TFM), paving the way for what is now known as “The Nafta Railway.”

4. A single 1,300-mile railroad, under common management, seamlessly connects Mexican seaports to the central United States.

5. This is the sole railroad bridge connecting the United States with Mexico at Laredo, Texas.

Hutchison Ports Holdings to construct terminal at Mexican port
5/24/2006 | Intermodal

Hutchison Ports Holdings Group plans to spend $200 million to build a container terminal at the Port of Lazaro Cardenas, Mexico — a project that could mean more intermodal traffic for Kansas City Southern de México S.A. de C.V. and its parent, Kansas City Southern.

The terminal is designed to handle 2 million containers annually. Hutchinson Ports expects the facility to handle 450,000 containers annually after the company completes the project’s first phase next year. The terminal’s second and third phases will increase annual capacity to 850,000 containers and 1.7 million containers, respectively.

[KCS' North American rail holdings and strategic alliances are primary components of a NAFTA Railway system, linking the commercial and industrial centers of the U.S., Canada and Mexico.]


1,271 posted on 06/11/2006 5:39:33 PM PDT by nicmarlo
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To: nicmarlo; Czar; hedgetrimmer; texastoo; WestCoastGal; potlatch; ntnychik; PhilDragoo; devolve; ...
Thanks nic...

Each time I see a new map, like a huge
octopus, the tentacles keep spreading!

 

1,272 posted on 06/11/2006 6:02:08 PM PDT by Smartass (Vaya con Dios - And forgive us our trash baskets as we forgive those who put trash in our baskets)
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To: Smartass
Each time I see a new map, like a huge octopus, the tentacles keep spreading!

I know...those were my thoughts. Except...they have the "real" map somewhere, and are only allowing bits and pieces to be viewed right now. Ack!

1,273 posted on 06/11/2006 6:09:18 PM PDT by nicmarlo
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To: Smartass

Thanks Smartass. I saved the map, like you say it keeps growing!


1,274 posted on 06/11/2006 6:11:15 PM PDT by potlatch (Does a clean house indicate that there is a broken computer in it?)
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To: Smartass

Actually, there's another map I wanted to post, but didn't know how to post a pic from a pdf file. Do you know how? If so, it would be good if you could post that.

See page 4 in the document called "Two Worlds - One Route" in my post #1271. It's at the bottom right-hand corner, above the image it says "KCSR, Tex Mex, TFM: Operating Under Common Control".


1,275 posted on 06/11/2006 6:17:48 PM PDT by nicmarlo
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To: potlatch; Smartass

That pic I mentioned, you will see it's got even more tentacles than we've seen yet. Potlatch, see my other post #1275 to know what I'm referring to.


1,276 posted on 06/11/2006 6:20:16 PM PDT by nicmarlo
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To: nicmarlo; devolve

Thanks nic. I want to keep an eye on this because only the big cities are marked but the main railroad has always run through my town.

It was started by a Count from Italy and was called the macaroni line Waaay back.


1,277 posted on 06/11/2006 6:25:17 PM PDT by potlatch (Does a clean house indicate that there is a broken computer in it?)
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To: potlatch; devolve
I want to keep an eye on this because only the big cities are marked but the main railroad has always run through my town.

Understandable your concern. And just think, it'll also be going through so many more little towns along the way. All these folks lives will be severely affected by this, imho. (I cannot but imagine the crime it will bring.)

1,278 posted on 06/11/2006 6:28:00 PM PDT by nicmarlo
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To: nicmarlo; devolve; Smartass

Well, I can't recall his name {Ramerez?] but remember the Railroad Killer a couple of years ago?

Murdered a bunch of women and He rode the train right through our town.

An illegal if I recall correctly.


1,279 posted on 06/11/2006 6:31:28 PM PDT by potlatch (Does a clean house indicate that there is a broken computer in it?)
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To: nicmarlo
Give me a few minutes. I can get it.

 

1,280 posted on 06/11/2006 6:33:26 PM PDT by Smartass (Vaya con Dios - And forgive us our trash baskets as we forgive those who put trash in our baskets)
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