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The DaVinci Delusion That Cannot Be Ignored
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| May 16, 2006
| Jan Markell
Posted on 05/16/2006 8:12:33 AM PDT by Esther Ruth
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To: Esther Ruth
If this book helps to separate the wheat from the chaff (real believers as opposed to sunday-morning only believers) then maybe it is a good thing. The fact that Satan is still trying to deceive people should come as no surprise to anyone.
When we read God's word, we see the no good ever came to anyone who distorted the truth about His son Jesus. I am watching to see what will come of the people who had a hand in writing this book and/or creating this movie.
"Be not deceived, God is not mocked; for whatsoever a man sows, that will he also reap".
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posted on
05/16/2006 8:35:32 AM PDT
by
bella1
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To: edcoil
Romans 8:28 And we KNOW that all things work together for good to them that love God, to them who are the called according to [his] purpose.
Rom 8:29 For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate [to be] conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren.
Rom 8:30 Moreover whom he did predestinate, them he also called: and whom he called, them he also justified: and whom he justified, them he also glorified.
Rom 8:31 What shall we then say to these things? If God [be] for us, who [can be] against us?
Rom 8:32 He that spared not his own Son, but delivered him up for us all, how shall he not with him also freely give us all things?
Rom 8:33 Who shall lay any thing to the charge of God's elect? [It is] God that justifieth.
Rom 8:34 Who [is] he that condemneth? [It is] Christ that died, yea rather, that is risen again, who is even at the right hand of God, who also maketh intercession for us.
Rom 8:35 WHO SHALL SEPARATE US FROM THE LOVE OF CHRIST??? [shall] tribulation, or distress, or persecution, or famine, or nakedness, or peril, or sword?
Rom 8:36 As it is written, For thy sake we are killed all the day long; we are accounted as sheep for the slaughter.
Rom 8:37 NAY!!! in all these things we are more than conquerors through him that loved us.
*** ==>>> Rom 8:38 For I am persuaded, that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor powers, nor things present, nor things to come,
Rom 8:39 Nor height, nor depth, nor any other creature, shall be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord.
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posted on
05/16/2006 8:36:12 AM PDT
by
Esther Ruth
(I will gather ALL nations that parted my land.... and....)
To: Esther Ruth
To: trashcanbred
And as for the "Jesus is just a man" stuff you pose, well there are branches of Christianity that believe just that.That statement, by definition, is impossible. You can't be Christian unless you believe that Jesus was the Messiah. That, in fact, is the definition of Christianity. People who don't believe that are called Jews.
You also demonstrate a problem in society that many get their information about Christianity from books like this.
As far as "just a book", I'm not trying to stop anyone from reading it, I'm just giving my opinion on the matter. I happen to think it's dangerous, and in your words, stupid.
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posted on
05/16/2006 8:38:08 AM PDT
by
oldleft
To: OpusatFR
It isn't the people with faith I worry about in this instance. It is the people without faith who are deliberately being misled. And do you think making a big noise about it is going to solve your problems? On the contrary it will just attract more and more people. And if everyone keeps making a big deal about this book, then people will start to believe that there maybe a shred of truth to it.
For crying out loud just let the book and the movie die. Everytime the Church or a Cardinal opens their yapper or a group of people try and get it banned you just keep breathing life into it and making Dan Brown richer. We have all been through these things before and for some reason no one learns the lessons of the past.
And not to mention... what can anyone do about it? Nothing... you can't stop it. You cannot threaten to kill the author (we aren't Muslims), and you cannot make laws to ban it. So the best thing to do is just say it is fiction and leave it at that.
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posted on
05/16/2006 8:38:43 AM PDT
by
trashcanbred
(Anti-social and anti-socialist)
To: Esther Ruth
Amen to that Esther. Thanks.
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posted on
05/16/2006 8:39:33 AM PDT
by
subterfuge
(Call me a Jingoist, I don't care...)
To: mlc9852
Look, the book is presented as historical fiction in the same way "Saving Private Ryan" was. It is presumed in the book that the fictional events occur around things which happen to be historical facts.
Not only is this not the case, but is very, very misleading as one can see from the amount of people I happen to respect who buy into this BS.
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posted on
05/16/2006 8:40:45 AM PDT
by
oldleft
To: edcoil
The Church isn't just the leaders of the visible institution.
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posted on
05/16/2006 8:41:09 AM PDT
by
Pyro7480
(Sancte Joseph, terror daemonum, ora pro nobis!)
To: trashcanbred
So the best thing to do is just say it is fiction and leave it at that.Not only that, but educate people who think the book is presenting facts about Jesus and Christianity.
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posted on
05/16/2006 8:42:07 AM PDT
by
Pyro7480
(Sancte Joseph, terror daemonum, ora pro nobis!)
To: oldleft
Isn't a novel usually fiction? Why do people think this is true?
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posted on
05/16/2006 8:43:32 AM PDT
by
mlc9852
To: mlc9852
The MSM's incessant hyping of this heresy sickens me.
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posted on
05/16/2006 8:44:41 AM PDT
by
GAD
To: oldleft
That statement, by definition, is impossible. You can't be Christian unless you believe that Jesus was the Messiah. That, in fact, is the definition of Christianity. People who don't believe that are called Jews What I said was that there are a number of groups who call themselves Christians who reject the holy trinity or at least claim they are three distinct individuals. That is true, right?
By the way.. never... ever try and say I get my information from Marx or Communists...
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posted on
05/16/2006 8:45:07 AM PDT
by
trashcanbred
(Anti-social and anti-socialist)
To: subterfuge
Okay. Then make it very clear to the followers that their leaders are humans just like the rest.
For example, the Pope is just another man and there is nothing special about him except that he happened to make it to the top through the church bureaucracy. Much like our president.
And all of the saints (multitude of deities) that people pray to, well they were humans, too. They may have done great things while they were alive, but they were just humans who did good things or like the Pope made it to the top and through the church bureaucracy.
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posted on
05/16/2006 8:45:12 AM PDT
by
dhs12345
To: Esther Ruth
Skeptics, seekers, new Christians, and unstable Christians could end up believing that the Christian faith is founded on a myth...Well, the Christian story is a myth. It is an ancient story which claims supernatural events and acts for which there are no external confirmations or evidence. It is one of countless fantastic stories that survive from the ancient world, it just happens to have a large number of modern-day believers in it's truth.
I happen to think that the DaVinci Code has done a service to society by encouraging people, especially Christian believers, to question the authority of those who assure us that the Bible is an inerrant document given to us somehow by God and that it's stories are all literally true. Literal belief in ancient myth is what gets us into situations like we see currently in the United States, where fundamentalists fight to insert a mythological explanation for the origin of the human species into science classes.
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posted on
05/16/2006 8:45:38 AM PDT
by
BearArms
To: mlc9852
I don't know... I am confused why people want to keep breathing life into this thing. It just keeps the whole thing alive.
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posted on
05/16/2006 8:46:39 AM PDT
by
trashcanbred
(Anti-social and anti-socialist)
To: trashcanbred
I wasn't trying to say that you get anything from any communist source. I would never disrespect you like that. I was trying to make the point that the "Communist Manifesto" was just a book, and a fiction book at that.
Sorry I offended you, it was by no means intentional.
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posted on
05/16/2006 8:47:40 AM PDT
by
oldleft
To: Pyro7480
Not only that, but educate people who think the book is presenting facts about Jesus and Christianity. I agree. There are many errors in the book and some people have done a great deal of work documenting them. These should be given more exposure.
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posted on
05/16/2006 8:48:40 AM PDT
by
trashcanbred
(Anti-social and anti-socialist)
To: dhs12345
I agree with everything you said. (psst, I'm not Catholic)
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posted on
05/16/2006 8:48:53 AM PDT
by
subterfuge
(Call me a Jingoist, I don't care...)
To: oldleft
Ok thanks... sorry I did think that was what you meant and yeah that got me a tad upset.
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posted on
05/16/2006 8:50:02 AM PDT
by
trashcanbred
(Anti-social and anti-socialist)
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