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Reagan on Immigration
The Wall Street Journal (Reg. Req.) ^ | May 16, 2006 | Editorial Staff

Posted on 05/16/2006 5:39:20 AM PDT by LowCountryJoe

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To: LowCountryJoe
Thanks for posting this. I wanted to note that when the WSJ posted an excerpt of President Reagan's radio address in 1977, the WSJ may have not provided enough context of the item being discussed. Reagan, as he understood the problem in 1977, underscored that workers who were allowed to immigrate into the US to pick apples in New England were only temporary. As Reagan wrote:

"In view of the reluctance of Americans to take those jobs it's interesting yo see what kind of workers crossed the border & the Ocean to pick New England Apples. Some of the Jamaicans have counted on this work for a number of years. Their job's at home have to do with the tourist trade and are therefore seasonal. They come here,pick applies in New Eng., sugar cain {sic] in the South and go home to their seasonal work."
- see K. K. Skinner et al., ed. Reagan, in His Own Hand. New York: Free Press, 2000.

Clearly, as President Reagan understood the problems in 1977, he envisioned an immigration system that permitted foreign workers to work when U.S. citizens would not/did not take jobs, and that those foreign worker's stays were of a temporary nature.

221 posted on 05/21/2006 12:04:57 PM PDT by Fury
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To: LowCountryJoe
In his signing statement, Reagan declared that "We have consistently supported a legalization program which is both generous to the alien and fair to the countless thousands of people throughout the world who seek legally to come to America. The legalization provisions in this act will go far to improve the lives of a class of individuals who now must hide in the shadows, without access to many of the benefits of a free and open society. Very soon many of these men and women will be able to step into the sunlight and, ultimately, if they choose, they may become Americans."

---- And with that, Reagan signed in law the 1986 amnesty that turned a small immigration problem into a BIG immigration problem. That bill was a total failure. Now, we are looking at a bill remarkably similar, only more generous to illegal immigrants and with amnesty perhaps five times larger.

If this is trying to make a point by showing us "What would Reagan Do?" the question has to be asked: Is Ronald Reagan the type of man to make the same massive mistake twice?

222 posted on 05/21/2006 12:31:53 PM PDT by WOSG (Do your duty, be a patriot, support our Troops - VOTE!)
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To: LowCountryJoe

"Immigrants, even the illegal ones, add to our economy once all of the numbers get fleshed out.Immigrants, even the illegal ones, add to our economy once all of the numbers get fleshed out."

Legal high-skilled immigrants, yes.
Illegal and low-skilled immigrants, no.
And the imbalance gets worse going from illegal to legal.


223 posted on 05/21/2006 12:33:12 PM PDT by WOSG (Do your duty, be a patriot, support our Troops - VOTE!)
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To: Mo1

If it took a wall to stop 9/11, would Reagan have built a wall?

WAKE UP FOLKS! In 1986, Reagan had a common-sense conservative view - amnesty but ONLY IF there were employer sanctions as well, 'draconian' employer sanction ... But, KENNEDY GUTTED THE EMPLOYER SANCTIONS IN THE BILL. As a result, the 1986 bill was a failure. The only impact was to make the situation worse, and to deliver millions of votes for Democrats in the 1990s.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,122297,00.html


In exchange for legal status for the group, Reagan insisted that the magnet attracting illegal aliens to the United States be removed by extinguishing any incentive for U.S. employers to hire illegal aliens. In tandem with the amnesty, Reagan campaigned for employer sanctions for hiring illegal aliens, sanctions so stringent that many at the time regarded them as draconian.

Reagan reasoned that if an employer were fined for hiring an illegal alien (as much as $1 million in the worst cases), any payroll savings achieved by the hiring would be wiped out by the fine. In effect, it would be more expensive to hire illegal aliens than to hire Americans or lawful permanent residents. The few illegal aliens who continued to take the gamble and cross the border would be intercepted by a robust and more generously funded Border Patrol.

While Reagan’s 1986 immigration reforms (search) can at least be called rational, they were a failure. Today, there are between 8 million and 11 million illegal aliens in the United States. The majority of them crossed our southern border and has found employment — illegal employment, but employment nonetheless. This is attributed to Sen. Ted Kennedy’s eventual gutting of the enforcement mechanism for Reagan's employer sanctions, and successive administrations refusing to give our Border Patrol the resources it needs to achieve its mission."


224 posted on 05/21/2006 12:43:35 PM PDT by WOSG (Do your duty, be a patriot, support our Troops - VOTE!)
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To: cake_crumb

"We need to cut off the goodies, allow enforcement to enforce, stop ordering city cops not to help them, and also oversee that they DO enforce the law. And that's for starters."

The Senate CIRA bill, written by Kennedy makes it WORSE on all counts!

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1635900/posts


225 posted on 05/21/2006 12:46:56 PM PDT by WOSG (Do your duty, be a patriot, support our Troops - VOTE!)
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To: LowCountryJoe

Reagan had a democrat House and a democrat Senate.. and he selected two turncoats as Supremes.. Amazing that he got ANYTHING DONE.. at all.. but he did.. The boy had theives and traitors 360 degrees around him..


226 posted on 05/21/2006 12:53:50 PM PDT by hosepipe (CAUTION: This propaganda is laced with hyperbole..)
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To: Personal Responsibility

Reagan never fathomed the invasion we have today.


227 posted on 05/21/2006 1:03:57 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (Immigration: Acting like dupes does not earn us their respect, but their CONTEMPT.))
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To: mariabush

When I was a kid back in 1982, I remeber that the vast majority of construction workers, food industry workers and truck drivers at the time were Americans, and this was in Los Angeles County.


228 posted on 05/21/2006 1:25:08 PM PDT by RFT1
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To: RFT1
I lived in L.A. County for 26 years, and I remember a huge amount of Mexicans.

Lots of towns have Mexican names, and all through school we were taught the Mexican history of California and L.A. County in particular. I am in my middle sixties, so it wasn't just yesterday that they appeared!!!
229 posted on 05/21/2006 1:57:47 PM PDT by Coldwater Creek ("Over there, over there, We won't be back 'til it's over Over there.")
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To: mariabush

They have been around of course, but not in the sheer numbers they are today. Except for Ag jobs, most of the so called jobs that "Americans wont do" were done by Americans into the late 80s, early 90s.


230 posted on 05/21/2006 2:54:36 PM PDT by RFT1
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