Posted on 05/15/2006 5:14:48 PM PDT by Leisler
the pubbies have a problem. their choices like those of the people on flight
93 are between certain death and near certain death.
If they allow the illegals citizenship--the illegal/legals will do what they did after 1986: vote democratic and tip the country to a democratic majority as they have done in california and that because after 1993 in California many mexicans began voting in california to preserve gov bennies--for which the dems excel. There won't be social security benefit for Americans of retirement age from the illegals/legals because they will suck up what ever they put into the economy--as they are now. They won't yield a net gain. ie they won't pay for anyone's social security.
Everyone but everyone who has ever been to any government building that dispenses anything from health care to drivers lisences can't help but notice that the place is swamped with foreigners. Basically the welfare state system set up in the 1960's is being totally gamed by foreigners.
If the president gets his way he will demoralize the republicans bringing on the effects of the 1992 & 1996 elections. There may not even be a third party but when W builds in a reversal of the fortunes of the war of 1848--it creates a kind of passivity in people when they see their leaders commit them to the status of world historical losers.
If Bush decides to put up a wall and expel the illegals then there is a chance to preserve Republican majorities. It would be helpful to promise that the USA will kill the cost of water desalination and transport so as to make it economically possible to turn the deserts 1000 miles from any desert seacoast -- green. (this would increase the habitable size of the USA by a third and double the habitable size of Mexico.)This work is already ongoing and will be accomplished in five years or so--or in about the same time frame that GM promises to have a cost effective fuel cell car. For GM as it is for the GOP its do or die time.
The chief difference between the pubbies current predicament and flight 93 is that they are currently in the cockpit. (if you presume that bush is a republican or at least more of a republican than a bilderburger.)
The point here is that if these guys cannot act like loyal americans at least they can act like republicans. ie people who have a stake in the continuity of the republican party.
Since they are not doing this the republicans in the white house and senate all need to be smacked on both sides of the face and kicked in the but.
That's YOUR opinion according to YOUR definition of "conservative". Not all conservatives would agree on what they should fix for dinner tonight, what to do about Iran, and neither will they agree on the solution to EVERY problem known to man.
That is why it is impossible for this President, nor any other President, to satisfy everyone.
Guards damn it, not quads!!!
I hate that spell check box when scrolling.
Do you hear the democrats ever talk about putting thousands of Guardsmen on the border? Or fences? Or ending catch and release program? Or a worker id card that would be required by federal law for businesses to be able to employ non-citizens? Or cameras and other reconnaisance on the border? Or nearly doubling the Border Patrol? Because I have never heard a single democrat EVER propose or support ANY of those things, but I have heard Representative Tancredo, Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity and the other people who reflect the majority of real conservative thought say all those things. Bush didn't go as far as I wish he would have, but he certainly said most of what conservatives want, and all of them are things democrats don't want. This didn't help the democrats. It puts them on the spot to oppose things that the majority of Americans want. That will not help democrats.
The courts (does catch and release ring a bell?) and Congress (must fund things like a 10 fold increase in BP $$$) are equally to blame.
Not at all...
Do the math.
2 million per year for 20 years... to say nothing of the anchor baby problem, not addressed at all... another ten million.
Why wouldn't your vote depend on position of the guy running in 2008? Or do you just want to punish Bush regardless?
It is strict and fair. It is ethical and logical.
The president's Christianity is showing:
I am very glad he dropped the word "vigilante" from his rhetoric when talking about the border. The Minutemen and other border watch groups are heros and patriots and calling them vigilanties is vulgar and obscene. I think the WH and the pubs in general are finally starting to see that most Americans think just like the Minutemen they just can't all go to the border themselves. And I really think that the story showing how the Border Control hierarchy was colluding with the Mexican Consulate to report on their numbers and disposition had a LOT to do with this speech and it's five years too late seriousness in dealing with the border problem, and recognizing that there really is one. I think easily this speech is bad news for democrats. They will oppose ALL the things he is wanting to do, and that will put the democrats squarely at odds with the clear majority of American CITIZENS, and THAT will be one more thing that the democrats will be clearly seen as weak on, the border. Just like on taxes and the war on terror.
(Denny Crane: "Every one should carry a gun strapped to their waist. We need more - not less guns.")
Isn't THAT the truth.
I feel more and more like a mushroom every time he talks to us...
The success of our country depends upon helping newcomers assimilate into our society, and embrace our common identity as Americans. Americans are bound together by our shared ideals, an appreciation of our history, respect for the flag we fly, and an ability to speak and write the English language. English is also the key to unlocking the opportunity of America.
He must think we're idiots. What kind of a commitment has an illegal made who works here, owns a house, perhaps a business and whose entire extended (illegal) family hasn't bothered to learn English?
I know many of you listening tonight have a parent or a grandparent who came here from another country with dreams of a better life. You know what freedom meant to them, and you know that America is a more hopeful country because of their hard work and sacrifice. As President, I have had the opportunity to meet people of many backgrounds, and hear what America means to them.
I know many of them, Mr. President, but they are all legal .... a minor point in your universe, but not the subject of the current controversy and debate.
Stop describing legal immigrants. The are not the problem. You are.
Here's a clue. They won't all be coming from Mexico.
By the time the 'Rats get through with adding "compromises", whatever comes out of the current proposals will be another disaster no different than the 1986 "solution".
The devil is in the details.
There you go pointing out the facts and quotoing the actual speach. Shame on you. ;)
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