Posted on 05/15/2006 5:14:48 PM PDT by Leisler
It's an election year, if I remember my American politics correctly.
Good post. The problem with immigration has been going on for twenty years, but most of the posters on this thread belong to a group who would fit in better with the DU. Calling themselves conservatives is a farce. "Blame Bush" is their slogan and mantra and they are no better than any liberal spouting their hatred for President Bush.
The vast majority of those "many peoples" where white. White majority melting pots have worked before but other kinds don't have such a great track record. I've never had it explained to me why we're supposed to allow the US to become a white minority country. White guilt?
An immigration reform bill needs to be comprehensive, because all elements of this problem must be addressed together –
Why can't they be addressed separately?
Five years,not five days or five weeks or even months.
Do you really think the President's speech appeals to conservatives? Or do you think "conservatism" means supporting whatever the President says and does, a la Harriet Myers?
If the Republicans in Congress will find, rent, steal a spine and come out hard against illegals demanding deportation, and demanding the border being secured they would find that the strong vocal support by 3 out of 5 Americans would easily drown out the frothing liberal minority calling the racists. But many pubs are so scared of being called racists that don't seem to understand that most Americans are sick of the border pharce and want it to be dealt with, and will support them strongly if they will just do so. Most Americans know good and well that being anti-illegal immigrant isn't even close to being racist. That's just the typical accusation from liberals to any Conservative deciding to make tough decisions, the liberals of course being the real racists.
The jury is still out ...
our quick elimination of the Taliban,
And its replacement by a ... slightly ... less radical Islamic Republic, which still believes that death is appropriate for someone who converts from islam to Christianity ...
I watched the lady that is the head of LaRaza on Lou Dobbs before the President's speech. I honestly couldn't tell much difference between her rhetoric and the President's. So sad.
Well, we are not a Parlimentary system (thank God!). If we were Bush might very well have been removed by now in a no confidence vote.
It's not the job of Republicans to take whatever the party leaders decide to do and support it. It is their job to listen to the voters in the party or suffer the consequenses. Most of us at this site Americans first, conservatives second and Republicans third. There is nothing American or conservative in flooding the country with 100 million illegals.
Bladerdash. I am a conservative. George W. Bush is not. Those who believe that a free spending globalist (who proclaims himself a democrat frequently) is any kind of conservative are living in a dream world.
We have had a guest worker program before- the bracero program. It worked. Workers went back. That is because the employers who bring them in are financially responsible that they go back.
There you go.
Ignore the facts, don't contribute anything of any intellectual weight, and just lash out at other FReepers.
That is verrrrry persuasive.
/sarc
Same old tired bullsh*t
Blah blah blah . . . we increased funding by 60% . . . blah blah blah . . . in 2008 we may add a few more border patrol . . . . yada yada yada...some ole shit
I won't send another dime to any Republican candidate! All my contributions will go to http://www.minutemanproject.com/
I will also stay home in November. I am extremely disappointed. Shocked. Turly shocked.
I have to disagree with your non-voting stance on this. I agree 100% that anything short of a secure border, a wall, and immediate deportation for ALL illegals, is not enough, but not voting is just guaranteeing the democrats get control. And while many pubs are bad on border security, the democrats that WILL take their place if there is low Republican voter turnout are WORSE. While gutless Republicans don't do enough in Congress to secure the border like 3 out of 5 American CITIZENS want done, the democrats that will take over if Conservative voters don't vote because of apathy, will criminalize brave hero groups like the Minutemen and give us nothing but all impeachment investigations all the time. You seriously better rethink your no-vote thing if you don't get your way exactly. That's exactly what the liberals want conservative voters to do. Why would you want to nuke the country politically and give control to the libs because you don't vote? A weak Republican is still better than a frothing democrat throwing the race card, raising taxes, apologizing to terrorists, and criminalizing the Minutemen.
Haven't heard from that lardass in quite a while.
I hate Houston. Couldn't get out quick enough. It isn't even like being in Texas being in Houston. But most of what Bush said is what most Americans have been wanting to hear for a long time. If he does what he said in that speech, and there's no reason to think he won't, his numbers will go up. The reason they've been under 50% is because many conservatives are p.o.'d that he doesn't show any kind of spine when it comes to the border, and engaging the liberals with some teeth.
I agree totally. Personally, if it was me, I'd use multiple Army divisions from all 48 states being redeployed to the border in rotation, and Air Force and Naval air patrols on the border. But 6,000 is better than none, and frankly, with how many awesome Americans have taken this into their own hands to patrol the borders like the Minutemen. If I was Bush I'd of gone a lot further, but I'm not so oh well. Most of what he's said is whst most conservatives have wanted for a long long time. I will be surprised if Limbaugh and Hannity, which represent the overwhelming majority of conservative voters, don't praise this speech as being long past due. Possibly not going far enough, but a LOT better than what's currently being doen, which is NOTHING.
Hon, I've read it and it's a better plan than any president has ever come up with in our lifetimes.
>>We are a Nation of laws, and we must enforce our laws.<<
It's only 2006, Mr. President. You were elected in 2000. What's the big hurry?
>>First, the United States must secure its borders. This is a basic responsibility of a sovereign Nation. It is also an urgent requirement of our national security.<<
Again, Mr. President, it is 2006. You were elected in 2000, and again in 2004.
Nearly 3000 Americans were murdered almost 5 years ago.
Why are you suddenly saying it is "urgent" to secure the borders?
I am reasonably certain it is because the backroom deal you made with Vicente Fox is threatened by the American Voter.
We are putting pressure on Congress, and it is having an effect.
You had no intention of being bothered with what the American Voter had to say. You were going to ram this down our throats, like it or not. But the whole thing is heating up and backfiring, isn't it?
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