Posted on 05/03/2006 1:44:47 PM PDT by MikeA
"If he goes to Supermax in Florence, Colorado he will live for a very long time."
They said on O'reilly's last night it would be SuperMax for him, but it was never explained how / whom gets to go there and who decides ??
"I hope they show many Christian Religious programs."
You pick the service you want and it is only piped in via a speaker in your cell !!
Why not KSM? Or Bin al-Shibh? Or Reid?
What in the world is the difference?
So you're thinking that Lance is lying when he says the FBI set up a sting operation but cancelled it when it was discovered that Yousef was able to talk with operatives overseas and order fake passports? I don't quite get where you're going with this.
My original post was that I'm not pleased that Moussy is alive because it's entirely possible that he'll find a way, through a guard or doctor to communicate with other jihadists or with Yousef. And my post illuminated that even in solitary confinement in this particular federal prison, it's entirely possible that Moussy will find a way to communicate with other jihadists.
I am saying those jurors by their decision are enablers of terrorism.
If a jury of one's peers doesn't signify a jury of like minded individuals, what the heck does it signify?
The Constitution plainly calls for, "an impartial jury."
He paints Yusef as some kind of jihadi puppeteer from inside a supermax.
No, I don't believe it.
Gotcha. Voting to send a terrorist to a supermax for life in 'enabling.'
Worst thing of all - they did NOT find him to be crazy, etc - they basicall threw out ALL of the mitigating circumstances his attorneys put out there.
I'd like to know who these people on the jury are - They should not have had the right to make this obviously incorrect and harmful decision on behalf of all US citizens. This should have been a military trial.
Oh well, I'll just sit back and feel good about how fair and merciful we are, while the terrorists laugh and pack their explosives... Sad sad sad.
Does anybody know when exactly Zacarias Moussaoui will finally be in his cell where he will spend the rest of his life? Now? Or next week? What's the process?
FOX News is going to show where he will be holed up very shortly.
No, but there have been countless rulings allowing jury tailoring, that is throwing out jurors thought likely to convict, or likely to acquit on the prosecution side. Impartial does not mean totally uniformed.
Go read the jury questionnaire in the Moussaoui case and see if you don't think many of the questions are designed to allow just such tailoring. Jurors can be challenged for cause, if one side or the other can convince the judge they would not be "impartial", but somehow the practice has become that they, the lawyers, can have jurors "de selected" for no stated reason at all. That, and allowing questionnaires such as the one issued in this case, to be given to the jurors. Under today's procedures, small towns would never have been able to try cases, because virtually everyone in town would know one or more of the principals in the case, and would have some pre-knowledge of the case.
Another egregious practice is not allowing jurors to apply their professional or particular expertise to arguments in the jury room. Thus a PhD physicist, or just any physics major or engineering major, could not use their expert knowledge to argue that the explanation of one side or the other's explanation of events would require a violation of the known laws of physics, (conservation of mass/energy, conservation of momentum, etc). He couldn't even point out where an "expert" witness was wrong about something like that. That's not justice, it's injustice disguised under the forms of law.
He's a homicidal sociopath. He's not a "people person." He is no great wit, bon vivant, or learned and accomplished man. He will not be haunted by the thought that there will be one to laugh with, or depressed by the realization that he will be be kept sequestered apart from the wider world, its beauty, and its opportunities.
If he is angry at all, it is because he will likely never have a chance to commit the mass murders of Americans including the jurors who spared his life.
- Omar Abdel-Rahman - leader of the New York City landmark bomb plot
- Mahmud Abouhalima - involved in the 1993 World Trade Center bombing.
- Ahmad Mohammed Ajaj - involved in the 1993 World Trade Center bombing
- Mohamed Rashed Daoud Al-'Owhali - involved in the 1998 U.S. embassy bombings
- Mohammed Ali Hassan Al-Moayad - helped to finance al-Qaeda and Hamas
- Mirssa Araiza-Reyes - drug smuggler and undocumented alien; killed inmate Frank Melendez
- Nidal Ayyad - involved in the 1993 World Trade Center bombing
- Tyler Davis Bingham - Aryan Brotherhood member
- Maynard Campell - a 55 year old white separatist with ties to militia groups; was stabbed to death.
- Anthony "Gaspipe" Casso - Lucchese Crime Family figure and killer of at least 35 people
- Ibrahim Elgabrowny - involved in the New York City landmark bomb plot
- Wadih El Hage - involved in the 1998 U.S. embassy bombings
- Joey Estrella - convicted bank robber, killed in ADX Florence.
- Luis Felipe (a.k.a. King Blood) - Latin Kings gang leader
- Ronald Griesacker- Fraudster, passed $2 million in worthless checks. Released in 2002.
- Matthew F. Hale - White supremacist, (unsuccessfully) solicited the murder of federal judge Joan Lefkow
- Rodney Hambrick - serving a 68-year sentence on bomb charges
- Clement Rodney Hampton-Ell (a.k.a. Dr. Rashid) - involved in the New York City landmark bomb plot
- Robert Haney - bank robber
- Robert Hanssen- a former FBI agent serving life for spying for the U.S.S.R. for two decades
- Charles Harrelson - Mobster, father of actor Woody Harrelson
- Larry Hoover - Gangster Disciples gang leader
- Eyad Ismoil - involved in the 1993 World Trade Center bombing
- Anthony Jones - Multiple murderer
- Theodore Kaczynski - The Unabomber
- Yu Kikumura - member of the Japanese Red Army
- David Lane - Neo-Nazi leader, racketeering, conspiracy and violating the civil rights of radio talk show host Alan Berg
- Joseph Leissler - robber, murderer
- Raymond Luc Levasseur - American domestic bomber
- Tom Manning - Killed a New Jersey state trooper.
- Joseph Bryant McGee - bank robber
- Timothy James McVeigh (April 23, 1968 June 11, 2001), executed for Oklahoma City bombing
- Frank Melendez - a cocaine dealer from California killed in ADX Florence by Mirssa Araiza-Reyes.
- Barry Byron Mill - Aryan Brotherhood member
- Khalfan Khamis Mohamed - involved in the 1998 U.S. embassy bombings
- Dandeny Munoz-Mosquera - chief assassin for Pablo Escobar, responsible for the bombing of Avianca Flight 203
- Zacarias Moussaoui - Convicted for the September 11, 2001 attacks and sentenced to 6 life terms without parole in ADX Florence [1]
- Abdul Hakim Murad - involved in Operation Bojinka
- Terry Nichols - involved in the Oklahoma City bombing
- El Sayyid Nosair - involved in the 1993 World Trade Center bombing
- Raymond Oechsle - was incarcerated with Casso from 2001 to 2002 at ADX.
- Richard Reid - The "Shoe Bomber"
- Ahmed Ressam - serving 23 years for attempting to blow up Los Angeles International Airport
- Omar Mohammed Rezaq - Hijacked an Air Egypt flight in Greece in 1985.
- Oscar Rivera - leader of the Armed Forces of National Liberation, a Puerto Rican terrorist group, for bombing 28 targets in the Chicago area. Received an additional 15-year sentence for an escape attempt (from another prison).
- Eric Robert Rudolph - Olympic Park Bomber
- Mohammed A. Salameh - involved in the 1993 World Trade Center bombing
Thomas Silverstein -- Bank robber and murderer; killed guard Merle Clutts in another facility.
- Mutulu Shakur- an acupuncturist turned self-professed freedom fighter for the group Republic of New Afrika, sentenced to 60 years for bank robbery, conspiracy and murder (during the robbery, a policeman and two guards were killed.) Stepfather of late rapper Tupac Shakur, brother of Assata Shakur
- Douglas Taylor - Leader of the 88 Skinheads
- Saxon Taylor - Skinhead leader
- Manuel Torrez - 64 year old inmate killed at the hands of other inmates, the first in Supermax history.[2][3]
- Earnest James Ujaama - tried to develop an al-Qaeda camp in Oregon
- David Vargas - Convicted Of - Drugs & Voluntary Manslaughter.
- Danny Weeks - kidnapper
- Ramzi Ahmed Yousef - terrorist, involved in the 1993 World Trade Center bombing and Operation Bojinka
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