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Scientists Make Water Run Uphill
BBC ^ | 4-30-2006 | Roland Pease

Posted on 04/30/2006 12:13:33 PM PDT by blam

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To: mdmathis6

I wasn't picking on ya...just always amazed that a regular guy (as Peter was at that time) can have enough faith to walk on water. I have tried it, of course, but I must be doing something wrong.


21 posted on 04/30/2006 2:19:42 PM PDT by Dark Skies
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To: jwh_Denver
That's Guadelupe. I've made that float a couple of times. I don't remember much except we drank a lot of beer and nobody ever left the river to relieve themselves.

Wonder where all that used beer went?

22 posted on 04/30/2006 2:25:30 PM PDT by keithtoo ("Drilling in ANWaR is OK with us" - Alaskan Caribou Benevolent Association.)
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To: demlosers

Does your Slinky walk UP stairs?



23 posted on 04/30/2006 3:15:37 PM PDT by Right Wing Assault ("..this administration is planning a 'Right Wing Assault' on values and ideals.." - John Kerry)
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To: blam

Big deal - it's convection, that's all.


24 posted on 04/30/2006 3:46:43 PM PDT by Solamente (Let all the poisons that lurk in the mud hatch out)
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To: Dark Skies
I have tried it, of course, but I must be doing something wrong.

LOL

25 posted on 04/30/2006 4:20:14 PM PDT by njwoman
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To: keithtoo

"Wonder where all that used beer went?"

It's called Lone Star. LOL!

I really loved that New Braufels area. The first time I was there I actually thought I was in Wisconsin. Yeah, Texas was the last southern state I lived in. Had to have 4 seasons after 7 years in the South; SC, FL, MS, and TX.


26 posted on 04/30/2006 4:29:24 PM PDT by jwh_Denver (Illegal immigration 24/7, the GOP ain't making it 24/7, Oil 24/7)
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To: blam

27 posted on 04/30/2006 4:29:45 PM PDT by Right Brother
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To: Dark Skies
...walk on water. I have tried it, of course, but I must be doing something wrong.

Dude...It's easy during winter in Canada and a lake converted to a hocky rink.

28 posted on 04/30/2006 4:35:52 PM PDT by Drango (No electrons were harmed in this posting. Several however, were inconvenienced.)
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To: jennyp
You think thats weird, look at what my quantum mechanics professor recently did. A computer that runs when its off, well sorta, its on and off a the same time.

CHAMPAIGN, Ill. — By combining quantum computation and quantum interrogation, scientists at the University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign have found an exotic way of determining an answer to an algorithm – without ever running the algorithm.

Using an optical-based quantum computer, a research team led by physicist Paul Kwiat has presented the first demonstration of “counterfactual computation,” inferring information about an answer, even though the computer did not run. The researchers report their work in the Feb. 23 issue of the journal Nature.

Quantum computers have the potential for solving certain types of problems much faster than classical computers. Speed and efficiency are gained because quantum bits can be placed in superpositions of one and zero, as opposed to classical bits, which are either one or zero. Moreover, the logic behind the coherent nature of quantum information processing often deviates from intuitive reasoning, leading to some surprising effects.

“It seems absolutely bizarre that counterfactual computation – using information that is counter to what must have actually happened – could find an answer without running the entire quantum computer,” said Kwiat, a John Bardeen Professor of Electrical and Computer Engineering and Physics at Illinois. ”But the nature of quantum interrogation makes this amazing feat possible.”

Sometimes called interaction-free measurement, quantum interrogation is a technique that makes use of wave-particle duality (in this case, of photons) to search a region of space without actually entering that region of space.

Utilizing two coupled optical interferometers, nested within a third, Kwiat’s team succeeded in counterfactually searching a four-element database using Grover’s quantum search algorithm.

“By placing our photon in a quantum superposition of running and not running the search algorithm, we obtained information about the answer even when the photon did not run the search algorithm,” said graduate student Onur Hosten, lead author of the Nature paper. “We also showed theoretically how to obtain the answer without ever running the algorithm, by using a ‘chained Zeno’ effect.”

Through clever use of beam splitters and both constructive and destructive interference, the researchers can put each photon in a superposition of taking two paths. Although a photon can occupy multiple places simultaneously, it can only make an actual appearance at one location. Its presence defines its path, and that can, in a very strange way, negate the need for the search algorithm to run.

“In a sense, it is the possibility that the algorithm could run which prevents the algorithm from running,” Kwiat said. “That is at the heart of quantum interrogation schemes, and to my mind, quantum mechanics doesn’t get any more mysterious than this.”

While the researchers’ optical quantum computer cannot be scaled up, using these kinds of interrogation techniques may make it possible to reduce errors in quantum computing, Kwiat said. “Anything you can do to reduce the errors will make it more likely that eventually you’ll get a large-scale quantum computer.”

In addition to Kwiat and Hosten, co-authors of the Nature paper are graduate students Julio Barreiro, Nicholas Peters and Matthew Rakher (now at the University of California at Santa Barbara). The work was funded by the Disruptive Technologies Office and the National Science Foundation.
29 posted on 04/30/2006 4:41:46 PM PDT by RHINO369
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To: RHINO369
Hmmmmmmmm... Well then, if they can get information from not having run the algorithm in the first place, then extracting information of an event that happens in the future can't be far behind. I think. (Now my head hurts.)
30 posted on 04/30/2006 6:13:09 PM PDT by jennyp (WHAT I'M READING NOW: "The Great Influenza" by Barry)
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To: Right Wing Assault
I'm sure you know the answer to that. There may be similarities between the slinky and the uphill water ladder used here - so I posted the slinky image.
31 posted on 04/30/2006 6:14:44 PM PDT by demlosers
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To: blam

The was a paper in Science about 10 years ago concerning another method for causing water drops to move uphill. It involved creating a surface with a special coating that was decreasingly hydrophobic as one went uphill.


32 posted on 04/30/2006 6:27:30 PM PDT by wideminded
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To: demlosers

Just being silly.


33 posted on 04/30/2006 6:36:46 PM PDT by Right Wing Assault ("..this administration is planning a 'Right Wing Assault' on values and ideals.." - John Kerry)
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To: jennyp

There was another article that I can't find now (probably from New Scientist) where they developed a plastic with microscopic holes or valves that let air in one way only. Because of the normal movement of air molecules, over time all the air inside a bag made of this material could escape, creating a vacuum inside the bag. If you reverse the material it becomes a self-inflating balloon. All with no external energy input.


34 posted on 04/30/2006 6:45:47 PM PDT by jennyp (WHAT I'M READING NOW: "The Great Influenza" by Barry)
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To: Right Brother

How does Dyson make water go uphill?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/3046791.stm


35 posted on 04/30/2006 6:57:36 PM PDT by Peelod (Decentia est fragilis. Curatoribus validis indiget.)
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To: Right Wing Assault

Oh... :-)


36 posted on 04/30/2006 7:10:31 PM PDT by demlosers
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To: jennyp

That sounds like some cool stuff. I would think the Ziploc company would be jumping all over it.


37 posted on 04/30/2006 8:26:42 PM PDT by zeugma (Wear patriotic pins and apparel on May 1!)
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