Posted on 04/28/2006 1:57:54 PM PDT by pravknight
Doesn't fly. "free trade" requires open borders. NAFTA rail corridor, NAFTA trucks are examples where the movement of goods becomes unimpeded by borders. GATT 'mode 4' "free movement of persons", people unimpeded by borders for trade. The "free trade" system is a socialist system,designed to advantage 'least developed countries' and give their people free movment to first world countries so they can send remittances back to their home countries as a social service. You are for "free trade" therefore you are for global socialism.
For the common good....sure enough!
Foxnews, just reporting Russ Limbaugh arrested and released
in Florida.....
'Alo, Ali? This be Juan over here in Mexico. Got extra oil you can ship over here?
'You betcha, Juan. How you like? Cash, check, or Money Order?
' . . . ummmm . . . but we broke for now. Why we pay anyway? You know, brothers. Right?
'Hokay, this time maybe. But only if you distribute Quran's all around and get rugs!
'But we don't use rugs. We make blankets!
'Oh! Sorry. Big Mo says use rugs.'
'Rugs for what?
'For kneeeeling, brother. You know, say prayers to Allah.'
'But . . . but . . . we socialist folks. No heaven, no god, no virgins!'
'Eh, what you say, Juan? No virgins? Hokay, forget it. No oil for you.'
It amazes me that anyone over the age of 10 would actually believe this. I'm thinking Elizabeth must be a very young person to hold to such a complete slate of the provably false.
Notice the proviso at the very bottom - For socialism to succeed in any country, the struggle has to be international, embracing the demands of the working class of all nations and spreading those demands from country to country.
This is a pat explanation for socialism's complete lack of success to date. In a sense it's true - the one thing that typified socialism in practice was that its country's citizens wanted to escape it. Make it international and yes, there will be no borders in the sense that enormous prison camps don't need them. There is no escape.
In truth no such solidarity between international working classes developed - certainly not in the case of the Paris Commune, which was slaughtered in the end by the working class populating the defeated French army - because there were and are stronger bonds elsewhere, stronger "class consciousness" in Marxian terms. It is not, after all, the American working class that is advancing the interests of the illegal immigrant working class; it is the high bourgeoisie who have swimming pools that need to be cleaned, yards that need tending, fruit that needs picking. Even a Marxian analysis of this case proves it lacking.
And in practice where countries did apply Marx's political theories the state never did wither away and the working classes of the respective countries never did regard the borders as meaningless. That would have been difficult anyway given constraints such as walls, minefields, internal passports and machine-gun nests. You can "imagine" any utopia you like but when the real things turn out this toxic it's time to chuck the theory into the ash-heap of history where it belongs.
Don't count on it. Communism doesn't work in a place where you already have a super rich ruling class (which is communism without having to pretend to care about the proletariat). Jews will still be opposed. Its the oldest ideologue on the planet.
No it doesn't. I'd like free trade with Germany. Doesn't mean we have to let all the Germans in.
NAFTA rail corridor, NAFTA trucks are examples where the movement of goods becomes unimpeded by borders.
Moving goods does not mean open borders.
The "free trade" system is a socialist system,designed to advantage 'least developed countries'
Free trade benefits both parties.
You are for "free trade" therefore you are for global socialism.
I am for free trade, I am against socialism. English as a second language? Don't feel bad, English is a difficult language to learn.
No, what this means is that Jews will be hunted down and killed no matter where they take refuge.
It took me awhile, but eventually realized that almost every argument I've ever seen from the hard left is just emotion wrapped in a straw man.
As the example you quoted is.
I thought "international socialists" are usually called
...communists...
No, they are called sacks of s#$t.
Then you can show in NAFTA where it says open borders.
I wouldn't call asking you to provide evidence of your assertion retarded. Wishful thinking, yes.
1 + 2 = 5
Hedgemath: Defying logic on FR since 7/6/01.
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