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NEOCONS SQUANDER THEIR ONLY VICTORY
Yahoo News ^ | 4-26-06 | Ted Rall

Posted on 04/26/2006 7:26:20 PM PDT by SJackson

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To: Yehuda

And that was toned down!

That I knew. No sense in getting too riled up. Left-wingers aren't worth the time.

Oh, thanx for the compliment! Sometimes you have to make it rough, other times you have to make it smoooooooooth. ;-)

41 posted on 04/27/2006 12:02:56 AM PDT by rdb3 (I think I'll stay in Arkansas...)
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To: SJackson
The Bushies might have lost...

I see this kind of line and I know I'm not dealing with a serious article.

42 posted on 04/27/2006 2:03:12 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It. Supporting our Troops Means Praying for them to Win!)
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To: SJackson

The only word that comes to mind is "demented."

I wonder how many times Rall's parents "accidentally" dropped him on his head when he was a baby?

We need to get his (and Howie Dean's) rants out to more people, just so they see how crazy the libs have become.

Mark


43 posted on 04/27/2006 2:17:48 AM PDT by MarkL (When Kaylee says "No power in the `verse can stop me," it's cute. When River says it, it's scary!)
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To: Alouette
whether Palestinians will be allowed to export to the outside world from Gaza.

Export what? They have no products to export.

How can you say that? They've got those greenhouses in Gaza that were funded by well-meaning, but deluded Jews and Israelis, to help them begin by exporting flowers and ... Huh? What? Who did? Oh, never mind...

Well, at least the palstinians have a long track record of exporting... terrorism. They seem to bring terrorism where ever they go, whether it was to Jordan, or Kuait, or Lebanon... And they're so loved by the locals when they arrive (see the genesis of the name "black september.")

Mark

44 posted on 04/27/2006 2:23:11 AM PDT by MarkL (When Kaylee says "No power in the `verse can stop me," it's cute. When River says it, it's scary!)
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To: SJackson
The Bushies might have lost Afghanistan and Iraq

We did? Oh chit, we surrender, Ted.

45 posted on 04/27/2006 2:56:03 AM PDT by metesky ("Brethren, leave us go amongst them." Rev. Capt. Samuel Johnston Clayton - Ward Bond- The Searchers)
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To: SJackson

Comeon, it's Ted Rall, where's the Barf Alert?


46 posted on 04/27/2006 4:19:48 AM PDT by Braak (The US Military, the real arms inspectors!)
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To: SJackson
The Bushies might have lost Afghanistan and Iraq, but they got exactly what they wanted in Palestine: democratic elections, a peaceful transfer of power, a radical Islamist group ready to disavow terrorism and transform itself into a parliamentary political party, a majority party willing to work with Israel and her allies.

The author must not realize that April Fool's Day was 3 weeks ago.
47 posted on 04/27/2006 4:23:15 AM PDT by Old_Mil (http://www.constitutionparty.org - Forging a Rebirth of Freedom.)
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To: SJackson
Who cares about Rall?

The glaring truth from this article is that we must never, ever let a liberal into a position of power again.

This article indicates that a liberal would welcome Hamas and treat them like dignitaries.

Remember this, the next time you vote.

48 posted on 04/27/2006 5:58:15 AM PDT by Erik Latranyi (The Democratic Party will not exist in a few years....we are watching history unfold before us.)
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To: Alouette
(KNOW )EXPORTS? WRONG , they have the worlds No 1 missile industry, launch success about 4-7 a day, But where they goes, nobody knows.
49 posted on 04/27/2006 6:06:42 AM PDT by jerryem ( God, we need a miracle, were is David Copperfield)
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To: SJackson

Don't beat around the bush, Ted. "Neocon" is spelled "JOOOOOOOS".


50 posted on 04/27/2006 6:43:32 AM PDT by Stultis (I don't worry about the war turning into "Vietnam" in Iraq; I worry about it doing so in Congress.)
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To: SJackson; All
The following statement establishes the fallacy, and absolute lie of the entire argument that the author of the article made:

"The Bushies might have lost Afghanistan and Iraq, but they got exactly what they wanted in Palestine: democratic elections, a peaceful transfer of power, a radical Islamist group ready to disavow terrorism and transform itself into a parliamentary political party, a majority party willing to work with Israel and her allies. It was a staggering victory for the neoconservative agenda, a golden opportunity to co-opt one of the most prominent organizations of militant Muslims in the world, and proof positive that democracy prevails over terrorism.

In fact, many of the opposites have occurred:

Hamas has not voiced any willingness to renounce terrorism.
And their deeds have reflected the lack of such willingness in that:
terrorism, in the form of the random firing of shoulder launched missles into Israel, from Hamas and all other terrorist groups operating in Gaza has increased, not declined since the elections.
And suicide bombings still go on, directed by Hamas and its terrorist allies.

In fact, Hamas as publicly announced that its terrorism - its terroristic military tactics - remain legitmate. In other words, it continues to see, and expects to use, terrorism as part of it's "negotiations". In other words, it's willingness to "talk" is no more than a willingness to discuss its demands and continue the terror if it's demands are not met.

51 posted on 04/27/2006 7:48:12 AM PDT by Wuli
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To: SJackson

Anytime a leftist like Rall says "Neocons" it means "these Jews that I hate". It is an anti-Semitic word.


52 posted on 04/27/2006 9:08:00 AM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion: The Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience. T)
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To: SJackson
Frustrated that they were no closer to their goal of an independent Palestinian state than they had been in 1987, Hamas' leaders changed course.

Hamas has not changed it's course nor is it's goal an independent Palestinians state.

Hamas's goal is the complete destruction of the State of Israel period.

They keep saying it loud and clear to anyone and everyone that will listen.

They have been killing Jews ever since they have been in existence every chance they get.

Islam and the people who practice it want Jews and Christians and anybody else that is not one of them either dead or a slave.

They do not want a State they want a planet.

What is it with idiots like this and those in charge of our and other Western Government who will die or sentence other innocents to death rather than accept what these animals say and do as the truth?

When someone tells me they hate me and mine going to kill me or them if they can I believe them and take the appropriate steps.

These people not only say it but are doing it everyday and our leaders send them money and tell us don't pay any attention they don't really mean to they just need understanding.

If this country has any hope we have got to get some leaders who have not been through our public educational system. Those coming out and going into politics are brain dead.

53 posted on 04/27/2006 10:03:17 PM PDT by mississippi red-neck (You will never win the war on terrorism by fighting it in Iraq and funding it in the West Bank.)
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SJackson quoting Ted Rall "Once again, the geniuses who run United States foreign policy have transformed a glorious opportunity to gain an ally into total disaster. Rejected by the West whose democratic game it played and won, the Hamas-led Palestinian Authority has been shoved into the arms of America's enemies. Iran, Qatar and Saudi Arabia---financiers of right-wing madrassas and the 9/11 attacks--have agreed to help the Authority make payroll for its 140,000 government employees."

That's a bogus argument. The Left always argues that we can't retaliate against terror because the "innocent civilians" are pulled along by their dictators. Here these "innocents" elected a terror organization as their government. Thus, all are fair game, for remedies including death and expulsion. Maybe the Muslims mean it when they say "you love life, we love death".

Who are we to argue?

54 posted on 04/30/2006 10:26:42 AM PDT by JBGUSA (If it's us or them, I choose us.)
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To: Alouette
They looted and then burned down the greenhouses left by the Gaza Jews.

That is an urban myth.

The Palestinians in Gaza did not destroy the greenhouses, as within weeks they were back in fully production. This is despite the fact that the greenhouses had their irrigation systems taken out before the handover, and in other areas, the produce of the greenhouses (which had already been purchased by the Palestinians) had been destroyed when the water systems were cut off.

Since the handover, Palestinians have made repeated attempts to export agricultural produce from Gaza, but this has been refused, for "security reasons." It has been a loss of millions of dollars for them.

Some references to the Gaza greenhouses:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20051019/wl_mideast_afp/mideastgazaagriculture

Oct 19 2005

GAZA CITY (AFP) - Gaza Strip farmers have renovated more than two-thirds of the greenhouses left behind after Israel's withdrawal, creating jobs for some 2,500 agricultural workers, officials said.

Figures published by the Palestine Economic Development Company (PED) show that in the month since Israeli troops left Gaza, Palestinian agricultural workers have refurbished some 2,200 dunams (22 hectares) of greenhouses out of the 3,162 which were transferred to them. ...

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=46011

Israel shuts off water, dries Gaza greenhouses Multimillion dollar deal set to transfer structures to Palestinians

August 29, 2005 By Aaron Klein

JERUSALEM – After months of intense negotiations recently culminating in a deal allowing for the transfer of Gaza's high-tech Jewish greenhouses to the Palestinians, several former Jewish residents who briefly returned to their farms told WND they were shocked to find most of their produce has died because Israel turned off the water in the area.

"I couldn't believe it. Almost all of my crops are dead, and the rest is dying," Anita Tucker, one of the pioneer farmers of Jewish Gaza told WND. "I hope the Palestinians aren't expecting fresh produce. ... A fortune in crops is now all gone."

The greenhouse deal, reached just days before the Gaza evacuation, sold the area hot houses for about $14 million to the Economic Cooperation Foundation, an international fund which in turn will transfer the structures to the Palestinians.

… About one-quarter of Gaza's Jewish greenhouses were previously dismantled and moved to new communities in Israel by their owners. The foundation deal reportedly covers the majority of the remaining hothouses.

The first payment to the former farmers of Jewish Gaza was transferred this weekend to a committee working on their behalf. …

But several Jewish Gaza refugees who were allowed to briefly return to their hothouses said most of the produce currently inside is now dead.

Tucker, who owns large structures, said her hothouses were set to be watered by automatic irrigation systems.

"The sprinkler systems didn't work because Israel stupidly turned off the water after the Gaza withdrawal," said Tucker. "All my work, down the drain."

55 posted on 05/26/2006 2:40:56 AM PDT by BlackVeil
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