Posted on 04/24/2006 11:09:14 AM PDT by blam
And let us not forget how the "previous settlers" tried desperately to prevent any research being done on the K. man -- all in an effort to preserve their claim to being the real owners of America and the victims of Western European greed, racism, oppression, etc.
Don't get too hung up on the "European" business. The Ainu are often compared to Europeans in Japan. Doesn't make them European.
I think Ainu would be just fine, fitting in with a sea-faring population which probably started down toward Indonesia, then followed the kelp resource community north, across the Aleutians, and down the west coast all the way to South America. What could be finer than that?
Don't know who these folks are but, I'd guess they belong to the same population as Kennewick Man.
Bye, Bye Beringia (8,000 Year Old Site In Florida)
"*Skeletal remains of 169 people, split almost evenly between males and females, ranging from 6 to 70 years old. About 75 of the skeletons were relatively intact."
*90 intact human brains that include the oldest DNA samples in the World.
*Artifacts of wood, bone, and seed that were made into jewelry and tools, providing insight into the ancient peoples' lives.
*Tests showed the oldest skeletons were buried 8,100 years ago. The youngest was placed in the ground 6,900 years ago.
"To put this into context," Doran said, "these people had already been dead for 3,000 or 4,000 years before the first stones were laid for the Egyptian pyramids!"
They were lean and robust, most likely a copper-skinned people. The tallest man stood 5 feet and 6 inches tall. The average woman was 5 feet and 2 inches.
If you look at the prevailing wind and water currents in the Pacific Northwest, it seems reasonable that the occasional ship would be blown off course and shipwrecked on the coast of Oregon or Washington.
I am utterly convinced that these events happened but we simply lack surviving evidence. Same with the Atlantic coast. I am utterly convinced that from time to time Europeans were shipwrecked there, possibly surviving and even fathering children.
It's going to take more than one skeleton to convince me that there was anything more going on.
"Bye bye Beringia"? Where do they get this?
DNA evidence proves beyond any doubt whatsoever that all surviving Native Americans tested so far are descended from people who started out in Asia, moved through Siberia and Beringia and fanned out.
One different person or even an entire village of different people doesn't disprove this.
It's fascinating, interesting, and informative about the human potential, but no way disproves Beringia, just as Kenniwick man doesn't disprove Beringia.
Let's pick the weirdest possibility -- Kennewick man rode all the way from England or Germany on a horse to Washington State, or even walked. Fascinating. So what?
Some guy just walked all the way across the USA in four months. Fascinating. So what?
"What could be finer than that?"
My own casino?.....:))
Chatters is the archaeologist who initially examined the skeleton.
Kennewick Man, Meet Your Distant Cousins
Professor Stephen Oppenheimer has done DNA studies that show that 25% of the Ojibway Indians carry the X-gene. The X-gene occurs only in the American Indians and some Europeans.
Presence of Haplogroup X in Ojibwe, etc., doesn't prove that this haplogroup came from Europe. Just that some people in Europe and some people in North America share common ancestors, which, of course, we already knew.
According to National Geographic Genographic study, Haplogroup X is found in Europe, Asia, Africa and America. Wide dispersion.
https://www3.nationalgeographic.com/genographic/atlas_and_maps.htmlAmerica.
https://www3.nationalgeographic.com/genographic/atlas.html?card=mm014
Ah.
There's the disconnect then.
The person to whom I was referring was the artist who actually sculpted the model.
There's the disconnect then.
The person to whom I was referring was the artist who actually sculpted the model.
Some of the artist types are good artists, but...
For those of us who study bones, this skull stands out like a neon light. It is definitely different from the normal Native Americans, including some of the older specimens. Go up to the photo and note how narrow everything is; that is extremely distinctive. There are a lot of other traits that stand out as well. Not surprising that an artist would not get the nuances of some of the skeletal details, even though they work directly from an original cast.
The first team of scientists, last summer, dealt with taphonomy, or burial orientation, position, the manner in which it broke up as it washed out of the bank, etc. There was a team in for a short time this February looking at other parts of the puzzle. I think they will have some interesting data to present in a few months. Stay tuned.
I keep looking for new updates but mostly they come in the form of legal battles of who gets to keep him or not.
The show I watched was basically an hour of the sculptor [a police forensics guy, if I recall right] painstakingly walking the viewers through the details of how such reconstructions are done.
I loved the show.
Just wish I knew where the dang VHS was.
Since I switched to DVD recorders, I've kind of lost track of what video tape is where....:-\
Good! I've always wanted to debunk the Bering Strait Theory. Got more ammo for it.
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