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Attorney General Says Bush Had Schiavo Case Wrong
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| 4/20/06
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Posted on 04/20/2006 1:37:42 PM PDT by AZRepublican
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To: daivid
>> Here in Florida, we have the right to make a verbal request rejecting feeding tubes.
Yes, you do. Now tell us when and in what words Terri Schiavo so requested?
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posted on
04/20/2006 6:44:44 PM PDT
by
T'wit
(Our top bioethicists: 5) Cranford 4) Rachel Carson 3) Ted Bundy 2) Margaret Sanger 1) Eric Pianka.)
To: ElkGroveDan
But speaking of psychological disorders, you need to look into the depths that anorexia can bring one to.
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posted on
04/20/2006 6:47:47 PM PDT
by
Amore
(First, let's kill all the lawyers!)
To: Amore
But speaking of psychological disorders, you need to look into the depths that anorexia can bring one to. Anorexia seldom causes neck trauma.
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posted on
04/20/2006 7:06:04 PM PDT
by
ElkGroveDan
(California bashers will be called out)
To: Amore
>> you need to look into the depths that anorexia can bring one to.
Terri? I don't believe anyone ever claimed that she was anorexic. On the contrary, she was a good eater. The bulimia theory, invented by a Schiavo lawyer named Gary Fox, was popular for awhile. Dr. Thogmartin dismissed it politely but firmly. It never did make sense.
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posted on
04/20/2006 7:08:36 PM PDT
by
T'wit
(Our top bioethicists: 5) Cranford 4) Rachel Carson 3) Ted Bundy 2) Margaret Sanger 1) Eric Pianka.)
To: ElkGroveDan
>> Anorexia seldom causes neck trauma.
Nor a compression fracture of the spine at L1 or a bone bruise on the right femur. Both of those traumas are unusual and a reasonable theory of the case must explain them.
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posted on
04/20/2006 7:12:07 PM PDT
by
T'wit
(Our top bioethicists: 5) Cranford 4) Rachel Carson 3) Ted Bundy 2) Margaret Sanger 1) Eric Pianka.)
To: Amore
But speaking of psychological disorders, you need to look into the depths that anorexia can bring one to. No evidence of that, unless you have something new.
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posted on
04/20/2006 7:14:11 PM PDT
by
bjs1779
To: T'wit
Oh, sorry, bulimia - anorexia, both can be deadly. But my recollection is that it WAS anorexia. And I think her problems with overeating are a little better documented than you seem to indicate.-- For starters, I seem to recall a few Karen-Carpenter-type photos of Terri.
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posted on
04/20/2006 7:14:52 PM PDT
by
Amore
(First, let's kill all the lawyers!)
To: freepertoo
conservative members of Free Republic -- were cheering this cold-blooded murder on with glee. Name one.
To: bjs1779
Sorry, I live in Central Florida, I've followed this case for years. That's all I'm going by. I don't have the time or inclination to provide the documentation for you. But you are welcome to provide any documentation you have to rebut my understanding of the case.
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posted on
04/20/2006 7:21:26 PM PDT
by
Amore
(First, let's kill all the lawyers!)
To: Amore
I don't have the time or inclination to provide the documentation for you. But you are welcome to provide any documentation you have to rebut my understanding of the case. Sorry, I just did.
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posted on
04/20/2006 7:23:34 PM PDT
by
bjs1779
To: daivid
>> You just made my point.
If your point had been worth making, I'd have considered it.
>> There is a big difference between denying food and water to a dog and force-feeding a human against her will.
Whatever are you talking about, "force-feeding"? Terri received nourishment and liquids for fifteen years through an ordinary g-tube. The decision was made in 1990 by her doctors and by Michael Schiavo. At no point did Terri refuse it. On your own characterization of her condition, she was incapable of refusing it.
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posted on
04/20/2006 8:12:53 PM PDT
by
T'wit
(Our top bioethicists: 5) Cranford 4) Rachel Carson 3) Ted Bundy 2) Margaret Sanger 1) Eric Pianka.)
To: Amore
>> Oh, sorry, bulimia - anorexia, both can be deadly.
Very rare in both cases. Let's dust off Occam's razor and look for a simple, logical explanation. There is one: domestic violence. It's the commonest cause of injury and death to young females and many thousands of times more likely than death from dietary disorders.
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posted on
04/20/2006 8:17:46 PM PDT
by
T'wit
(Our top bioethicists: 5) Cranford 4) Rachel Carson 3) Ted Bundy 2) Margaret Sanger 1) Eric Pianka.)
To: daivid
Some people saw it as a right-to-life issue. Others saw it as a right-to-be-left-alone issue. If one regards Michael Schiavo as a liar, and I believe there is more than enough evidence to regard him as such, then there is zero credible evidence that Terri wished to be fatally dehydrated--a method of execution that makes burning at the stake seem downright pleasant by comparison.
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posted on
04/20/2006 8:29:31 PM PDT
by
supercat
(Sony delenda est.)
To: Amore
>> For starters, I seem to recall a few Karen-Carpenter-type photos of Terri.
Really? I'd be interested in seeing those.
Her problem was overeating, not undereating. But the worst of it was way back in her high school years, some eight years before her so-called collapse. She conquered her weight problem, partly by going on a Nutra-System diet. Her weight in 1990 was excellent and stable.
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posted on
04/20/2006 8:35:13 PM PDT
by
T'wit
(Our top bioethicists: 5) Cranford 4) Rachel Carson 3) Ted Bundy 2) Margaret Sanger 1) Eric Pianka.)
To: daivid
>> Furthermore, dogs don't make verbal statements refusing forced feeding
So, she COULD talk after all. That certainly destroys the notion that she was PVS.
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posted on
04/20/2006 8:45:06 PM PDT
by
T'wit
(Our top bioethicists: 5) Cranford 4) Rachel Carson 3) Ted Bundy 2) Margaret Sanger 1) Eric Pianka.)
To: Amore
OK. Settled. Crist over Gallagher. Yes, the liberal let's murder the helpless contingent.
Enjoy your stay on this Earth. If someone wants to murder you I will think they shouldn't and support the law stopping it.
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posted on
04/20/2006 8:45:23 PM PDT
by
tallhappy
(Juntos Podemos!)
To: AZRepublican
"There are some decisions that ought to be left to God and family," Crist said.How about leaving them to spouses that want them out of the way and ignoring the family's wishes?
This is one of the most egregious abuses of judical power we have ever seen.
None of us are safe if we allow judges to assume this kind of power.
To: AZRepublican
>> There are some decisions that ought to be left to God and family << [Crist]
Offhand, I can't remember God ever removing a feeding tube in order to dehydrate the patient to death. Quite the contrary, God said that if you deny water and food to the least of his children, you are denying Him. If you want to see what comes next, check out Matthew 25:41.
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posted on
04/20/2006 8:55:53 PM PDT
by
T'wit
(Our top bioethicists: 5) Cranford 4) Rachel Carson 3) Ted Bundy 2) Margaret Sanger 1) Eric Pianka.)
To: AZRepublican
So the JUDICIARY is NO LONGER a branch of the GOVERNMENT?
Who is this bozo?
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posted on
04/20/2006 8:57:07 PM PDT
by
PISANO
(We will not tire......We will not falter.......We will NOT FAIL!!! .........GW Bush [Oct 2001])
To: bjs1779
>> Furthermore, dogs don't make verbal statements refusing forced feeding.
You should hear my pooch when it DOESN'T get fed fast enough. No Hollywood star could equal the dog's heart-rending performance when its food dish is neglected.
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posted on
04/20/2006 9:15:55 PM PDT
by
T'wit
(Our top bioethicists: 5) Cranford 4) Rachel Carson 3) Ted Bundy 2) Margaret Sanger 1) Eric Pianka.)
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