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"Fair Tax" Promotes Better Compliance, Smaller IRS
db Digitalburg.com ^ | Apr 14, 2006 | Ben Pierce

Posted on 04/16/2006 7:49:45 AM PDT by Eaglewatcher

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To: Bigun
I certianly don't agree!

I suspected as much. If you were not in favor of something worse for our republic, you would not be huckstering it to others.

41 posted on 04/16/2006 1:44:14 PM PDT by eskimo (Political groupies - rabid defenders of the indefensible.)
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To: eskimo

That 'small' part of the code is the part that gives them the power to do rectal exams on the American people and pry into every aspect of our lives.

Why are you in favor of keeping that 'small' part?


42 posted on 04/16/2006 1:46:00 PM PDT by Badray
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To: eskimo

And that's just one area in which you'd be wrong.

You are allowing projected fears to stop you from seeing this clearly.


43 posted on 04/16/2006 1:50:46 PM PDT by Badray
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To: Badray
Everyone with a SS number who registers for the prebate gets it for their household regardless of income.

Yep. The most expensive entitlement program in American history.

44 posted on 04/16/2006 1:52:39 PM PDT by Mojave
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To: Badray
Why are you in favor of keeping that 'small' part?

You see, that's the problem I have with the hucksters of this tax scheme they make stupid assumptions. If you are so willing to do that, was it a stupid move you made to shill for this scheme? So many questions and you have not had any better answers for over 8 yeas now.

45 posted on 04/16/2006 1:54:00 PM PDT by eskimo (Political groupies - rabid defenders of the indefensible.)
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To: eskimo
...huckstering it to others.

I'm really sick of you SQL's claiming we're somehow "huckstering" the idea of the fair tax. All of the details are open to the public. http:/fairtax.org. I haven't heard a single idea from any of you SQL's other than a return to a simplified flat tax which we have had in the past and it got turned into a monster.

So just what is it that we're huckstering? A return of power to the people?

What is your idea? What is the number of your bill? What is your plan? How do we get rid of the income tax in a fashion that will be acceptable to libs and conservatives alike? PLEASE give us your solution.

EACH and EVERY time I have asked the SQL's for an alternative I can hear a pin drop. In all these years. I can only conclude that I have been posting to SQL's whose existence depends on the presence of the income tax and the IRS and/or K-street. All of the b******s who slime their scales on the current system.

As far as the flat tax is concerned you might as well go down to South Georgia and start pruning kudzu. It'll grow back so fast you can't out run it.

46 posted on 04/16/2006 1:57:57 PM PDT by groanup (Shred for Ian)
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To: Badray
And that's just one area in which you'd be wrong.

I guess we differ about who is wrong, no surprise there.

47 posted on 04/16/2006 1:58:58 PM PDT by eskimo (Political groupies - rabid defenders of the indefensible.)
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To: groanup
All of the details are open to the public.

Yes, and when people tell you they do not like the details, all you have in response is ridicule.

48 posted on 04/16/2006 2:01:45 PM PDT by eskimo (Political groupies - rabid defenders of the indefensible.)
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To: Dazedcat
The other thing that worries me is.....when has any federal agency ever been abolished? The IRS being put out of business? Well here's hoping, but I seriously doubt it, sad to say.

And therein lies the problem. Too many people that sit back and bemoan the status quo, and yet do little to change it.

For the time being - government actually DOES work for us, although I admit that those days are numbered. If you want to take back control of YOUR government, then You/WE have to do something about it, and the BEST way to do that is via the purse strings.

Congress may control the purse strings in regard to federal spending, but WE control the purse stings to congress - or at least we should. With the IRS and the Charlie Foxtrot that is our very broken tax code, THEY actually control us.

Think they'll put up a fight to keep the status quo - you're damn right they will, but we best make our voices heard now, LOUD AND CLEAR - time IS running out.

49 posted on 04/16/2006 2:04:12 PM PDT by AFreeBird (your mileage may vary)
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To: Mojave

D'uh.

No FairTaxer is defending SS. I would venture to say that most have always been opposed to it as I am.

But since SS is not likely to go away soon, they will be utilized to send out the checks.

But nice try anyway.


50 posted on 04/16/2006 2:04:40 PM PDT by Badray
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To: eskimo
...all you have in response is ridicule.

Another of my favorite tactics by the SQL's. Our posts are "ridicule". Never mind that your posts accuse us of lying, hucksterism and misrepresentation. I have even been called a cultist. When someone posts such nonsense to me you may call my responses what you will - I would certainly not call them ridicule.

51 posted on 04/16/2006 2:11:27 PM PDT by groanup (Shred for Ian)
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To: Badray
No FairTaxer is defending SS.

Red herring. The "fair" taxer family consumption entitlement "prebate" would be larger.

52 posted on 04/16/2006 2:13:11 PM PDT by Mojave
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To: groanup
I have even been called a cultist.

How dare those heretics!

53 posted on 04/16/2006 2:14:38 PM PDT by Mojave
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To: eskimo
So tell us Obi-won, what is your solution to the CF that is our tax code? A tax code that panders to the special interests and sticks it to the general public. A tax code that controls US, and tells US what we can and cannot do with OUR hard earned money.

Who do you work for? Ted Kennedy; Congress; a MAJOR government contractor; CPA firm (H&R Block)? Why would any sane person want to keep the status quo unless they get something out of it?

And most people do not get anything out of it the way it is. Well. unless you count increasing taxes, larger government, & dwindling control of The People over government.

A very wise man once opined that: When the people figure out that they can vote themselves benefits from the public trough, then the Jig is up.

Guess where we are?

54 posted on 04/16/2006 2:16:32 PM PDT by AFreeBird (your mileage may vary)
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To: groanup
Never mind that your posts accuse us of lying, hucksterism and misrepresentation.

The huckstering is obvious. Just because I do not believe what you say is not necessarily indicating that I'm accusing you of being intentionally deceitful, you could be just be foolish.

55 posted on 04/16/2006 2:24:26 PM PDT by eskimo (Political groupies - rabid defenders of the indefensible.)
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To: AFreeBird
When the people figure out that they can vote themselves benefits from the public trough, then the Jig is up.

Like signing up for the "fair" tax prebate.

56 posted on 04/16/2006 2:26:26 PM PDT by Mojave
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To: AFreeBird
Who do you work for?

I work for myself and my family. Who do you work for? Let's be honest now.

57 posted on 04/16/2006 2:27:03 PM PDT by eskimo (Political groupies - rabid defenders of the indefensible.)
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To: Mojave
I'm sure there are many, many life insurance and annuity sales reps, tax shelter hawkers, IRS workers, CPA's, tax lawyers, tax preparers, tax consultants, corp. tax dept. workers, etc., etc. who post or lurk on here. Psst. You guys will have to re-learn your jobs. Happens to the best of us. LOL.

The life insurance lobbies sure are hard at work to protect the status quo.

WWW.FAIRTAX.ORG

58 posted on 04/16/2006 2:27:31 PM PDT by groanup (Shred for Ian)
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To: eskimo

So I'm either deceitful or foolish. Such an observation makes you..., narrow?


59 posted on 04/16/2006 2:28:44 PM PDT by groanup (Shred for Ian)
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To: groanup
So I'm either deceitful or foolish. Such an observation makes you..., narrow?

OK, I'm narrow and you are either deceitful or foolish.

60 posted on 04/16/2006 2:31:48 PM PDT by eskimo (Political groupies - rabid defenders of the indefensible.)
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