IMMIGRATION DRAMA IN THE SENATE

The Corner ^ | 04/07/2006 | Stephen Spruiell

[glowworm]

I agree: there is no right to arrange a violent revolution. Folding your arms and refusing to pay taxes is not a violent revolution. There is no violence offered at all. It's purely passive resistance. Nobody gets hurt...unless the government chooses to start murdering people for peacefully protesting.

In a Pure sense, I agree. But the Gooberment is composed of citizens who will surely MAKE their goverment murder ppl to insure that their benefits are not cut one penny. There is only a thin majority, now, who would NOT do this. Peace!

[RobbyS]

I guess that the chief offender is agribusiness. If you recall, Califormia growers attracted impverished farms from Oklahoma and Arkansas to work their fields during the 1920s. The war ended that source of dirt-chief labor, and afterwards, instead of mechanizing, they substituted Mexican labor. Ceasar Chavez more or less neutralized that, so they increasingly resorted to peopn labot direct from Mexico, They are blaggards, and ought to be run out of business.

[Vicomte13]

If that is true, then the game is lost.

[investigateworld]

You're close, but what attracted the migrants (including the mythical Joad family of Steinbeck's novel) was the fact that FDR sent back all illegals in 30s. Hence jobs, even though they paid poorly, were now available for Americans.
Add in the dust bowl of the Midwest, the Depression, low crop prices and the stage was set. People had a pride and dignity about not accepting welfare and doing their share. Later in life, my Mom married one of them who proudly called himself a Dust Bowl Okie. When he and his peer group talked about hunger, they knew it up close and personal.

[exhaustedmomma]

and broader use of surveillance technology

DonJoe--- maybe they heard us bitching here!

:0

[RobbyS]

And you are right about the deportations, But they were not always illegals. Sometimes they were just "Mexicans" because they had no papers, no record of birth and had not been counted by the census. That was true of a lot of "Americans," but they had white faces.

[investigateworld]

Obviously correct.
Just want to keep the record straight.

A certain pipe manufacture in L.A, was able to keep all of his illegals via applications of cash to right ppl.
His name and company escapes me at the moment.

[Don Joe]

We'll find out soon enough, IMO. I don't think they're going to wait too long before ramming through whatever it is they've got planned for what used to be our country.

[exhaustedmomma]

I agree. Sometimes it is easier to be flippantly hopeful when things are so dire. God Bless you and yours, Don Joe! Stay vigilant.

EM

[Don Joe]

Likewise to you and yours!

[bboop]

I think the teachers' unions are happy with the influx. It means more jobs, more ESL jobs, more ADA money. At a time when more and more people are opting out of the system entirely.

[RobbyS]

You have to distinguish between the unions and the teachers themselves. As a retired teacher and former local union leader, I feel that the union are more concerned to increase the education budget than to fix working conditions in the schools. It is not helped by the fact that ideologically the NEA and thr AFY leadership have abandoned assimilation as an education goal. It is no fun to deal with students who have no academic skills. When the schools fill up with kids whose primary language is Spanish and whose secondary one is Spanglish, the Monolingual teacher faces an impossible situation. The Anglo algebra teacher faces a class that is not only ignorant of math but-is semi-literate in two languages. He will be replaced by a teachers who speaks two languages, which gives advantage to the Hispanic teacher who is seldom, however, as academically prepared as his Anglo counterpart to teach in the English language. We will see pressure for math class in Spanish, which paradoxically, ignores the further problem that
most students speak very bad Spanish.

[ARealMothersSonForever]

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