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Citizens for Immigration Reform, Dallas Rally
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Posted on 03/30/2006 12:01:56 AM PST by blogbat

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To: Paul C. Jesup

You do realize that in paying people more than we pay illegals now, the prices for everything that relies on their labor will increase by quite a bit. I don't necessarily agree with the outcome of an illegal work force, because they do drive down the real wage. However, as I understand it if we were to all of the sudden try to eliminate a major part of our work force, it would create a pretty sharp rise in the prices.


41 posted on 04/06/2006 11:08:15 AM PDT by seasunmd
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To: seasunmd
You do realize that in paying people more than we pay illegals now, the prices for everything that relies on their labor will increase by quite a bit.

And that's wrong how, fair market prices are a good thing.

For example, the cost of gas is double what is actually should be because the U.S. government at both federal and state levels tax a total of around 50% of it's cost at the retail level.

42 posted on 04/06/2006 11:14:13 AM PDT by Paul C. Jesup
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To: Lunatic Fringe

"Let's face it... we're not going to deport 12 million people."

We don't have to, not entirely. For a start, stiff fines and jail time for anyone employing illegals and cut off all the free social services from illegals and a good chunk will go back the way they came.


43 posted on 04/06/2006 11:17:11 AM PDT by SeaBiscuit (God Bless America and All who protect and preserve this Great Nation.)
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To: Centurion2000

I just think that hotheaded remarks and unplanned words turn political issues into yelling matches. Even if you have valuable information to share with people, the use of language that attempts to erase or cover the fact that we are talking about people, people just like you and me, significantly limits the effectiveness of the message you want others to hear. This makes it close to impossible for people on opposing sides to listen to one another because all they hear are the names and angry words.


44 posted on 04/06/2006 11:17:40 AM PDT by seasunmd
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To: seasunmd
Do you think that willing Americans will be flocking to pick fruit in California? I think not.

You're right, of course.

What will happen is that taxes will be raised to provide additional subsidies to fruit farmers so that their fruit can be picked and sold for the current price.

Raising prices will mean that more fruit will be imported from Mexico (as is already being done) and American fruit farmers will simply go out of business.

45 posted on 04/06/2006 11:22:40 AM PDT by sinkspur (Things are about to happen that will answer all your questions and solve all your problems.)
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To: Paul C. Jesup

I'm not arguing whether it is a good thing or not to pay people minimum wages and keep fair market prices. I am just wondering how realistic it is to expect the general public to pay these new higher prices. After all, how much does the US outsource as a result of a public expectation for lower prices in goods and services. People overseas are caught in massive slave labor cycles so that we can keep the prices of merchandise relatively cheap.


46 posted on 04/06/2006 11:24:15 AM PDT by seasunmd
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To: rahbert
FR has become such an outpost of bigotry.

That'll teach you to come on here and defend a bunch of Messicans!! (/sarcasm)

Of course your friends could not maintain the stable if they had to rely on a bunch of teenagers who don't know what the hell they're doing around horses.

Most likely, if the workers they now have were forced to leave, they'd simply close up shop.

In fact, that's what would happen to a lot of small business owners.

But, since business owners suck anyway, who cares? Let 'em starve!!

47 posted on 04/06/2006 11:28:21 AM PDT by sinkspur (Things are about to happen that will answer all your questions and solve all your problems.)
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To: sinkspur

Thereby forcing us to constantly rely on imports for a supply of of anything that would have been produced through the employment of illegals. Thus lowering our GDP, which would in turn force us to run a larger trade deficit than the one we are currently running.


48 posted on 04/06/2006 11:43:28 AM PDT by seasunmd
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To: seasunmd
Thereby forcing us to constantly rely on imports for a supply of of anything that would have been produced through the employment of illegals. Thus lowering our GDP, which would in turn force us to run a larger trade deficit than the one we are currently running.

Exactly. We live in a global economy, and nobody is going to buy oranges at $1.00/pound, picked by Americans, when they can buy oranges at $.40/pound, from Mexico, picked by the same Mexicans we just sent back over the border.

49 posted on 04/06/2006 11:54:06 AM PDT by sinkspur (Things are about to happen that will answer all your questions and solve all your problems.)
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To: Lunatic Fringe
To post#18. Which is cheaper in the long run: rounding up the illegals or or letting them flood our our social services? Bet letting them stay is a slow bleed to death.
50 posted on 04/07/2006 5:37:51 AM PDT by G-Man 1
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To: pbrown

51 posted on 04/07/2006 10:14:53 PM PDT by exhaustedmomma (Calling illegal alien an undocumented immigrant is like calling a burglar an uninvited house guest)
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To: blogbat
Saturday April 8 11am-1pm

Praying for y'all!!!!!!!! It's my country BTTT

52 posted on 04/07/2006 10:19:28 PM PDT by exhaustedmomma (Calling illegal alien an undocumented immigrant is like calling a burglar an uninvited house guest)
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To: exhaustedmomma

What day in May?


53 posted on 04/08/2006 7:24:47 AM PDT by processing please hold (Be careful of charity and kindness, lest you do more harm with open hands than with a clinched fist)
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To: pbrown
A Reckoning In Crawford Texas - (illegal immigration protest on Sat. May 6th, 2006)
When: 1 PM Saturday May 6, 2006 Where: Crawford Texas next to the Crawford Community Service Center 999 East 4TH Street on the parking lot of the football field.
54 posted on 04/08/2006 7:46:55 PM PDT by exhaustedmomma (Calling illegal alien an undocumented immigrant is like calling a burglar an uninvited house guest)
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To: TexasRedeye

We will be there too! :)


55 posted on 04/09/2006 3:14:57 PM PDT by Anchor Baby
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To: blogbat

It would be agreat idea if we could get a roster of members who will be at the April 8th Rally. Also, i will bring extras of the "come and take it" & "Culpepper Minute Men" flags.


56 posted on 03/20/2007 8:12:15 PM PDT by TexasFreedomNow
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