Democrats Will Use Immigration to Divide and Conquer [Listen Up Republican Senators]

Human Events ^ | March 28, 2006 | Rep. Steve King

[Razz Barry]

We shouldn't let the Dems forget what happened under Clinton/Gore.

COSSACK: In a new book authored by David Schippers, the former counsel to the House managers, details an effort by the White House during the 1996 campaign. Schippers claims a speedy naturalization process was instituted affecting thousands of Latino voters, assuming they would vote Democratic. Schippers says the process didn't have the usual INS safeguards of keeping criminals from becoming U.S. citizens.

Before you explain this to me, I want to ask why did you include this in the book? I mean, what did this have to do with the impeachment?

SCHIPPERS: Well, it was part of our duties out here to do the oversight of the Justice Department. I included it in the book because I thought people should know what happened, that's why.

By the way, it was not Latino voters. We never focussed -- we had no idea what names we were using, we had no idea what the nationality, race or national origin of any of the people we were investigating because we did it by number.

COSSACK: Why did you assume that, therefore, that the people that were given this speedy naturalization process, as you claim, one, would be Democratic voters, two, that they would vote at all, and three, how many of them, if any, you could actually say were criminals?

SCHIPPERS: I don't -- I didn't in any way say that they were Democratic voters. I didn't care whether they were Democrat, Republican or Prohibition voters. Apparently the Democratic National Committee and the Democratic Party felt that they would be Democratic voters and that's why they knocked down all of the safeguards.

COSSACK: And you conclude that by the fact that, because of the speedy naturalization process -- you believe that was done strictly because you think that they believed they would vote for Democrats, right?

SCHIPPERS: Well, I saw the e-mails coming out of Vice President Gore's office saying, get this done, it's got to be done by election, it's got to be -- we have to finish it by the election. What else could you think?

COSSACK: Well, how about the fact that saying that they can turn to the American public and say, you know, we have done this and this is a campaign issue, how we deal with immigration, and this is how we stand on the issue?

SCHIPPERS: Well, they've got 60,000 felons that got citizenship because they cut down those safeguards.

EPSTEIN: Well, I'm not sure about 60,000, but I'll say it was many Republicans who were pushing the Immigration and Naturalization Service back in 1996 because of the backlog. Numerous Republicans are on record asking the INS to speed up the process. In fact, the INS during that time was using procedures that were established by, guess who? the Bush administration and the previous administration in 1992, and previous to that.

It's true that some people slipped through the craps -- the cracks. I'm not sure it was 60,000, as David says, but then the INS attempted to denaturalize those who were improperly naturalized, and the 9th Circuit has held it up.

But, basically, the problem was the INS had a procedure in place where if it didn't get a response regarding fingerprints from the FBI within 60 days, they would go ahead and naturalize it. That's -- naturalize the citizen. That is the process of the Bush administration used, and it's now been changed.

COSSACK: David, in terms of that response, I mean, how do you go ahead? I mean, what -- the picture you paint is a lot more nefarious than that.

SCHIPPERS: Right.

COSSACK: I mean, you paint a picture of a -- almost a conspiracy, if you will, to get these people in.

SCHIPPERS: Right. There were safeguards in place. They were totally ignored. The pressure was put on the district directors in the five key states to get these people naturalized. In Chicago, we had thousands naturalized during ceremonies at one of our stadiums. One was in the morning, and one in the afternoon. They got so completely screwed up with what they were doing that they were handing out certificates of citizenship, failing to get the green cards back, or failing to give them the citizenship.

COSSACK: But what I'm suggesting is that what Julian says is, look, there may have been bumbling, and perhaps there was -- and fumbling of -- and there may have been an overlooking of procedures -- but can you lay that in the hands of a particular group and, therefore, include it in your book?

SCHIPPERS: Yes, yes.

COSSACK: And why? SCHIPPERS: Because the Citizenship USA was proceeding. They were making every attempt at the district level to get rid of the backlog, to get the people naturalized. All of a sudden, the White House and the vice presidency got involved and they just went out and put the pressure on Doris Meissner, who in turn put the pressure on the district directors. And being bureaucrats, they just forgot everything else. In Chicago, they didn't even bother to put...

They did it before the 2000 election also.

[timer]

Montana...Colorado...Nevada...California...New Mexico...all of these names have spanish/mexican origins, yes? In the Northeast you have many original indian place names, yes? In fact all over the country there are original place names given to them by the original owners...where did they go? A little story : in 1970 our architectural class was on a 3 month visit to Morelia State(200 klicks west of Mexico Ciudad). I was commenting to the wife of a mexican general how backward and childish these mexican indians seemed to be. She got all uptight : listen GRINGO, we had a university in mexico city when you were still running around in buckskins in your colonies (the word "colony" of course comes from "colon"). True enough, but why didn't they GO anywhere with that head start? Ans : their top down "Roi/jefe" system vs our dynamic system of barely controlled chaos that we call "freedom"(which fosters creativity). Bovine mexico vs lupine america...they, and ireland, and practically every other country in the world is stuck in the past, we're dynamically changing, evolution's "tip of the spear". Look around, even our language changes rapidly, some great grand parents can hardly understand their great grand children's "english". Yes, mexicans DREAM of conquering the SW again, just like the palestinians DREAM of driving the jews back into the sea again. That DREAM died with Santa Ana's defeat in TX some 150 years ago by Sam Houston and his TEXIONS...

[ConservativeStLouisGuy]

From one SPUE member to another -- thank you! :-)

[Joe Boucher]

gee, ya think?
Repubs better start acting like repubs or they'll get their butts kicked and deservedly so.
Quit spending my money, and secure my borders.

[conservativecorner]

The difference would be that the Irish like my Grandfather from Italy came here legally. The illegals broke our laws getting into this country, and damned if I'm willing to reward them for their actions.

[DumpsterDiver]

The AFL-CIO is likely to dump the rats if they push through an amnesty bill with the rinos.

The AFL-CIO caved a few years back.

AFL-CIO, in Dramatic Turnaround, Endorses Amnesty for Undocumented Immigrants
April 2000

In a dramatic reversal of its past policy, the AFL-CIO on February 16 forcefully called for an immediate amnesty for undocumented immigrants, and an end to sanctions on employers who hire them. "Sanctions...[have] failed and must be eliminated," the federation said.

The AFL-CIO's new policy wants employer sanctions replaced with a system of "strong penalties against employers who abuse workers' immigration status to suppress [workers'] rights and labor protections."

[snip]

Statement by AFL-CIO President John J. Sweeney on President Bush's Principles for Immigration Reform
January 08, 2004

Reforms to provide legal status to the millions of hardworking, undocumented workers living in this country must be comprehensive and fair. They cannot and should not be designed primarily to provide a steady stream of vulnerable workers for American companies. Instead, immigration reform must provide a certain path to legalization for workers from around the world who are already living and working in the United States; repeal and replace employer sanctions with stiffer penalties for employers who take advantage of workers' immigration status to exploit them and undermine labor protections for all workers; reform, not expand, temporary worker programs; and reform the permanent immigration system so that those who want to reunite with their families and play by the rules are not penalized by unconscionably long waiting periods.

The union movement supports and will continue to fight for immigration reform that reflects these principles. Only in that manner can we as a nation provide a meaningful promise to immigrant workers now and in the future and safeguard basic rights and protections for all workers in the United States.

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[upchuck]

From one SPUE member to another -- thank you! :-)

You're very welcome!

IMHO, waaaaayy to much unnecessary excerpting on FR any more. I think the newbies think ALL articles must be excerpted.

They probably don't realize that six months or a year from now the complete article as posted here may be the only copy available. I know this happened several times during the sKerry campaign.

Maybe John can change the posting page so it checks to see if the article must be excerpted first. If so, fine. If not the poster could be encouraged to post the entire article. The way that page is designed now it makes excerpting way too easy.

[jackbenimble]

I think it would be brilliant strategy to drive the Latino community into the arms of the Dems

I think it would be a brilliant strategy to turn 12 million poor ignorant illegals into new voters. 8 out of 10 will likely vote for Democrats.

I am a citizen of half Hispanic dissent and I will vote against any Republican on my ballot that either votes for or voice support for anything with the slightest stench of amnesty. The Hispanic vote is not monolithic on illegal immigration. 46% of Arizona Hispanic voters supported Proposition 200.

[jackbenimble]

I have yet to hear one Black leader speak out about illegal immigration. Why is this?

There were two or three black talk radio hosts on Hannity and Colmes a couple nights ago and they made it clear that blacks understand they are being shafted.

[upchuck]

SPUE (Society for the Prevention of Unnecessary Excerpting) I'd like to join up...

No membership necessary. If you see an article that was unnecessarily excerpted, feel free to post the entire article as a reply.

You should check Jim Rob's list of no-no's first of course. The admins, justifiably, get pretty upset if you post a no-no article as a reply.

[blackie]

Protect our borders and coastlines from all foreign invaders!

Support our Minutemen Patriots!

Be Ever Vigilant!

[exhaustedmomma]

Okay, this is the proper thread to talk about disloyal Republicans and devious Democrats...

Okay, I'll bite. Republicans have veered so far from what use to be a conservative venue that I can't tell the difference most of the time from who is who. Who is the disloyal Republican? The ones refusing to put party before country and family? Or the ones refusing to keep their mouths shut on issues like law breaking invaders?

[ConservativeStLouisGuy]

Hello again...any way either you -- or someone else here at FR -- can come up with a graphic for the SPUE group? I'd be glad to use it whenever I see an FR poster in need of a SPUE membership application.... :-)

[upchuck]

A SPUE logo. What a great idea.

Unfortunately I'm graphics impaired and wouldn't know where to start.

But if you guys want to start a SPUE ping list I'd be happy to manage it. [polishes and pads resume] As you can see, I'm one of the managers of the South Carolina ping list, so the experience is there :)