Is it time for a constitutional convention called by the people re: illegal immigration?

[Jim Robinson]

"A judge threw it out."

I know. And this is one of the reasons I've been so adamant about keeping the Democrats out of power. We must eliminate as many liberal activist judges as humanly possible. We only have a chance of doing this with a Republican president and Senate. And then, obviously, it's only a chance. We have zero chance with the Democrats in power.

[Dane]

There has never been a Constitutional Convention.

Also since there are no real ground rules on how one would be run, other things could come up such as repealing the 2nd amendment(etc.etc).

But if some want to try, no problem by me.

[Pukin Dog]

I can't stress enough that this must, MUST be handled on a State-by-State basis.

Cant.

The Borders are a Federal issue. States have no standing when it comes to the borders beyond security. Immigration is also a Federal matter. Anything the states could do could be overruled by the Federal Government. That is just the way it is.

[Do not dub me shapka broham]

You're dreaming.

The American people will never elect another Bush to the presidency.

This Bush-Clinton-Bush-Clinton-Bush-Clinton insanity needs to be put to a stop.

[HitmanLV]

The problem with a constitutional convention is that while it can be convened for a particular reason, what happens at the convention isn't limited at all to that one reason.

The entire USC is on the table at a new constitutional convention.

I don't trust liberal/leftist types with an opportunity to influence a rewrite of the USC.

[DakotaGator]

Jim, the situation is grave. This country is so far outside of constitutional government that the government is not only trampling on the Bill of Rights but is allowing and promoting invasion. That the invasion is by illegal aliens vice more traditional armed forces makes it no less an invasion.

As far as calling a Constitutional Convention, I hesitate. It is not that we do not need one. My hesitation is that a Constitutional Convention is without limit in what it can do and thus can be easily diverted.

Instead, I propose a Council of States to deal specifically with the question of invasion by illegal aliens. This Council of States, though without constitutional power, would with its very formation send shock waves through Washington.

And here's why...by its very composition, a Council of States can change itself from a body considering and counseling on a single issue to a Constitutional Convention with all of the awesome power of such. A Council of States is a clear warning to the federal government that the Several States and The People have had enough and are preparing to assert their sovereignty.

It is far past time that the Federal Government need be reminded of true sovereignty.

[Don Corleone]

This would be treading on very shaky ground. A "Constitutional Convention" could quickly spread to undermining the Constitution in its entirety...the libs nirvana!

[CowboyJay]

Yes. It is time. I will be glad to donate any and all personal time I can spare to getting it done. I would personally like to see some type of national referendum & initiative package passed. It is obvious that our government has been subverted to the highest levels of office, and that we no longer have an effective way to redress grievances.

How do we get it done?

[Pukin Dog]

We only have a chance of doing this with a Republican president and Senate.

You know I agree completely. My post this morning was about this very thing. We stand to risk the very thing that could allow us to win on this issue down the road, if we risk the majority now through reactionary politics.

All of a sudden, Frist is everyone's best friend, when I cant remember anyone having much use for him during the confirmation hearings of many Federal judges. To me, the majority is the #1 issue, and if we have to give a little now, to get more in the future, I think we should. A constitutional convention is a great idea, but only when we have a much stronger majority in Congress.

[ZULU]

Its time for the American people to take back our government from the political pimps and prostitutes who have stolen it.

The overwhelming number of Americans do not want amnesty.

Congress and the President have apparently determined to ignore the expressed wishes of the vast majority of their constituents and pander to special interest groups who have no concern for public opinion or the good of America.

Its more than high time for strong methods to be taken to stop this.

We should clearly contact ALL our Congressmen and specially Giuliani, McCain and other Republican presidential aspirants and swear we will not vote for them if they support this nonesense and will actively work for their defeat if they do not listen to us.

We have a COngress - a REPUBLICAN Congress - which has worked to undermine the very basic fabric of our Republic - the free and open exchange of political ideas and fair campaigning for office with McCain-Feingold. They are now apparently planning to grant amnesty to thousands of illegal invaders. They have sat on their hands while the First and Second Amendments have been violated by our courts.

Its time for a change.

The Democrats and Republicans MUST be taught they have no constitutional monoploy on government.

[hosepipe]

True the illegals encouraged by the White House and Congress is almost treasonous.. at least an episode of sedition.. The problem grows.. even now is the gorilla in the alley.. Not only NOT STOPPED but actually encouraged..

One would hope this little website has some impact.. else this growing problem will keep growing dwarfing Frances problems.. Already it may be too late.. Except for heroic surgical measures.. I think the mention of Dubya in the near future may promote spitting on his name.. I'm close to that already.. Thoughly disgusted with the lawyerly gibberish being spoken about the illegals.. The Balkaniazation of the United States is on progress.. Pat Buchanan is and was right..

Was WWII a threat, so is this, the illegal insurgency.. Except WWII was "over there" , this is "over here"... Complicated by our public schools teaching little or nothing about civics.. for many years now.. ON PURPOSE.. Most today will not even know when America has been Balkanized... Pity.. They don't even know what the word means let alone "the Difference".. All promoted by republicans not democrats.. Amazing..

Interesting times these.. <<- (a chinese curse)..

[Czar]

I'm afraid, Jim, that with distrust of the federal government at an all time high, the cure of a Constitutional Convention might be far worse than the disease.

Politicians haven't had the noose pulled tightly enough yet around their crooked little necks. We need to keep turning up the heat, target the worst illegal alien panderers, and input large amounts to get their opponents elected (those who are certified as being strongly anti-illegal alien).

If that fails, other actions will have to be considered.

[tgslTakoma]

I guess I could help design the circuit for the lights.

Darn! I was hoping that you would offer to design the circuit for the high-voltage fence.

And I'm not really kidding about that idea, either.

[pissant]

Equating Bush with Clinton is ridiculous.

Slickster raised your taxes. Bush cut them.

Slickster was travelling the world apologizing for America. Bush crammed his boot onto the neck of the islamofascists.

Slickster pushed the phony "assualt" weapons ban, Bush let it die its natural death...and made Ashcroft change the Fed govt's official position to stating the 2nd Amendment applies to INDIVIDUALS.

I could go on and on.

[La Enchiladita]

Sorry, BG!

Stay in touch.

[Killborn]

Thanks. I'm not a huge fan of the Pres.'s inaction. But I like these threads less. :(

[igottabenutz]

Maybe put a bunch of giant bug-zappers along the border. We would have an alarm system AND entertainment. :)

[Jim Robinson]

That's a great post! How would you like to post a copy of it to this thread?

[clawrence3]

Agreed - an open Constitutional Convention would be a disaster with other "popular" measures besides illegal immigration.

[La Enchiladita]

Go after the employers. NOW.

We must demand this of Congress.