the problems:
the solutions:
lock & load America!
#1 - defund the government
they obviously do not enforce taxation of non-citizens
Posted on 03/27/2006 5:46:36 PM PST by Jim Robinson
Edited on 03/27/2006 8:53:53 PM PST by Jim Robinson. [history]
I'm an electrical engineer with experience in lighting, security and outdoor power distribution design. I'll kick in my time too.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Convention_to_propose_amendment_to_U.S._Constitution
http://www.answers.com/topic/convention-to-propose-amendment-to-u-s-constitution
http://www.uspto.gov/web/offices/dcom/olia/tmcybpiracy/haguecomments.pdf
Hope this helps
Can you see a 1700 page Constitution?
There are two routes for constitutional change. One is a specific-language amendment passed by 2/3ds of both houses and 3/4ths of the states. It is limited to the exact language of the amendment.
The other is a constitutional convention. Once a constitutional convention is, well, convened, the entire constitution is subject to change. That is a BAD idea. Think of the potential for the left: delete the 2nd, delete parts of the 1st; add express right to abortion; ERA; gay marriage; etc.
BAD idea.
Slightly off-topic, but what Bush doesn't realize is that even all those hard-working, just-want-to-support-my-family mexicans etc.
are being daily and hourly ORGANIZED by COMMUNIST groups, and since they are from socialist countries,
they'll VOTE SOCIALIST at any opportunity.
So even the honest types are BEING EXPERTLY ORGANIZED by every socialist/communist group in America. They are slaving away at "groups", at making posters, at organizing central committees as I type.
What we need is decent, likable politician like GWB, that ALSO wants to clamp down on the border.
Jeb, you listening???
The main Constitutional problem is anchor babies. Aside from that, there are plenty of laws on the books already that could be, but aren't, or are selectively, enforced.
While I can appreciate that sentiment, I don't believe we have sufficient population of honorable leaders who I would trust to have the power to completely rewrite the Constitution. Even my own fair Commonwealth is sorely lacking in this regard.
Remember: Once a Constitutional Convention is called, there are no limits on what can be proposed, or on what can be altered.
Do you trust the Republican party of today to handle the Constitution in this manner?
I know I don't. And the problem exists from THE TOP DOWN!
later read
Methinks.... we should simply read the Preamble....
word for word....
The part that says:
We the people [citizens] of the United States of America.....and
...and preserve the blessings of liberty for OURSELVES... and OUR POSTERITY....
Yes = oversimplified.... but something like that!
Blessings
I don't know if we need a Constitutional Convention for this.
We already have the laws in place.
We need to get the balls to enforce them. Maybe some stricter language defining the penalties for repeat offenders, employers who knowingly employ illegals, etc, but a Constitutional Convention would be a zoo I'm afraid.
Here's what's on the menu.. so far.
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A Look at Major Immigration Proposals
The Associated Press
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060328/ap_on_go_co/immigration_glance;_ylt=AqRWKGfyBYOJX37tebfT90ayFz4D;_ylu=X3oDMTA5aHJvMDdwBHNlYwN5bmNhdA--
Highlights of major immigration proposals in Congress:
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Senate Judiciary Committee's bill:
_Allows illegal immigrants who were in the United States before 2004 to continuing working legally for six years if they pay a $1,000 fine and clear a criminal background check. They would become eligible for permanent residence upon paying another $1,000 fine, any back taxes and having learned English.
_New immigrants would have to have temporary work visas. They also could earn legal permanent residence after six years.
_Adds up to 14,000 new Border Patrol agents by 2011 to the current force of 11,300 agents.
_Authorizes a "virtual wall" of unmanned vehicles, cameras and sensors to monitor the U.S.-Mexico border.
_Creates a special guest worker program for an estimated 1.5 million immigrant farm workers, who can also earn legal permanent residency.
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Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist's proposal:
_Requires all employers to verify the identity and immigration status of their employees through an electronic system.
_Assesses civil penalties of between $500 and $20,000 against employers for each illegal immigrant they hire and criminal penalties of up to $20,000 per illegal immigrant hired and up to six months in jail for engaging in a pattern of employing illegal workers.
_More than doubles the number of employment-based green cards, from 140,000 to 290,000, and makes more employment based visas available to unskilled workers. It also would free up other visas by exempting immediate relatives of U.S. citizens from being counted in the annual pool of 480,000 visas, and increase country-by-country ceilings on family sponsored and employment-based immigrants.
_Cancels visas of immigrants who have overstayed their visas and requires them to return to their home country to undergo additional screening at U.S. consulates.
_Makes it a misdemeanor crime for an immigrant to be in the country illegally.
_Increases the number of visas available for high-tech workers.
_Does not address President Bush's proposal for a guest worker program.
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House bill passed in December:
_Requires all employers to use within six years a database to verify Social Security numbers of employees or face civil or criminal penalties for hiring illegal workers.
_Requires mandatory detention for all non-Mexican illegal immigrants arrested at ports of entry or at land and sea borders.
_Establishes mandatory sentences for smuggling illegal immigrants and for re-entering the United States illegally after deportation.
_Makes illegal presence in the country a felony.
_Makes a drunken driving conviction a deportable offense.
_Requires building two-layer fences along 700 miles of the 2,000-mile border between Mexico and the United States.
_Does not address President Bush's proposed guest worker program for illegal immigrants already in U.S.
I don't know. On the one hand, something really must be done about illegal immigration. On the other, a constitutional convention at this point in our history could be like opening pandora's box.
We might go into it with the goal of solving the illegal immgrant problem, and come out with gay marriage and a pro-abortion amendment to the constitution.
It clearly has become a taxation without representation thing for we the people.
Which is to say, I'll never vote for anyone with that surname.
Besides, if George is a full-blown LULAC/La Raza booster, his brother Jeb is an outright Mechista.
Elevating him to the Oval Office-which thank goodness, will never happen-would be the equivalent of giving Manuel Obrador Lopez the keys to Air Force One.
The FEDERAL government is beyond all control. Abandon ANY hope of the yahoos in Washington doing ANYTHING to help you.
Call your State Delegate and Senator, and press them to start following in Georgia's footsteps. It is our ONLY hope!
Jeb will win hands down if he runs.
And GWB is a great President, IMO.
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