Young, successful, well paid: are they killing feminism?

Guardian ^ | 03/26/06 | Denis Campbell

[Energy Alley]

This is something I have been noticing for a while, this company hires ALOT of kids fresh out of school, I think were taking on 25-30 in the over the next few months.

These young ladies are extremely aggressive, they are extremely cynical, they are extremely self-centered. They know what they want and they know they have to get it for themselves, kids and husbands will just waste their time and money. Their like little Gordon Gecko’s crossed with the politics of Eric Cartman and the two of them who report to me HATE feminists. Its kind of cute to a point.

But I don't want to be around them when they hit their 30's they will probably have become full fledged sociopaths by then.

[Energy Alley]

A lot of women looking for that?

I am afraid the answer to that question is probably yes,

[wardaddy]

If you are going to be a doctor down the road hoss, then I am here to assure you that finding a decent woman willing to be your wife, have children and be a mom to them should be far easier for you than some schlub digging ditches.

You will most likely marry a nurse or PA who will sacrifice her "career" (they have careers not jobs like us) for you and ya'lls kids.

I wish you the best.....good docs here at St Thomas are the only reason sides God that I'm here playing around on FR at 2AM

but....don't ditch the nurse-wife in 20 years for a younger one...it's hell on all those children you'll have and your financial statement

[MonroeDNA]

I would never marry a woman who made more than me.

[FreedomPoster]

Ditto, except I'm not retired. And I make good money.

She's damn good at what she does. A big part of which is keeping people's money out of the hands of the FedGov.

[sneakers]

I remember hearing him say that! Great quote!

[sneakers]

"Where are all the men who'll hold the door open for my daughters????????????"

That would be my son. But then, I've raised an old-fashioned kind of guy in a traditional, old-fashioned way. He's 22 and already ticked-off a number of feminist friends. lol!

[manwiththehands]

Chiara Cargnel works 70 hours a week and wants a "successful" marriage?

I work up to 60 but it's only because I love what I do.

Just speaking for myself, I simply don't have the time right now for a GF or "significant other". What makes her think she does? She really does "want it all".

[rabidralph]

How is wanting a good, well-paying job a sign of manliness? Please, explain. For the most part, people on FR complain about women who live off their husbands, are golddiggers or who are just lazy, etc.

[mewzilla]

Further down the article there's this intersting bit: the assertion that the prosepct of losing some of that high-flying income is forcing women to put off having kids. Forcing them. Uh huh. The only thing that will save the day is guaranteeing women that going on the mommy track won't hurt that income. Employers will have to cough up the cash so these poor dears won't have to make some tough choices.

So much for feminism.

[estrogen]

I would never marry a woman who made more than me.

That's an honest and interesting statement. Why is that? I make more than my husband and it hasn't created any problems. In the beginning, I think he felt intimidated but it's OUR money not mine. It's afforded us some really nice vacations, a second home etc. I really think it shouldn't make any difference who brings home more.

[Day Kay]

The opposite would be men who strive to be the prettiest, best manicured, in the office. A lot of women looking for that? Sadly, yes. I just saw nightly wrinkle reducing cream for men at my grocery store. Have you checked out the array of men's body washes at the store? How about men getting pedicures and waxes? It's all happening so fast it makes me want to puke. Where are all the men who'll hold the door open for my daughters???????????? My three daughters (18, 17, 15) all look for guys with an incredible work ethic - not afraid to get dirty, sweaty, or mussed up to do what needs done. Who stays late to sweep the gym? Who volunteers to take the trash out? Who not only holds the doors open, but is there first to unlock them and stays last to re-lock them? They would all be so irritated at a guy who refused to do some hard work! Luckily, we live in a place (rural Texas) where that is the norm! We used to go to a church where the preacher wouldn't take out the trash or pull weeds....we left that church, and partly because we all had a difficult time dealing with a man who refused to do physical labor, even when necessary!

[Crolis]

I would never marry a woman who made more than me.

Reminds me of this exchange between George and Jerry on Seinfeld:

George: (agitated) Is she smarter than me? I don't want anyone smarter than me!
Jerry: (patronizing) How could she be smarter than you?

[69ConvertibleFirebird]

Wanting to be the provider of the family is an inherent male trait just as wanting a good provider is inherent to women. Did you not know this?

[rabidralph]

Of course I know that, but as a single woman, waiting for a good provider would land me on welfare. So I am providing for myself.