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What People Earn: How Did You Do?
Parade ^ | March 12, 2006 | Lynn Brenner

Posted on 03/14/2006 8:01:09 PM PST by stainlessbanner

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To: stainlessbanner

My industry, computer software, saw a 30% drop in paychecks overall. People are still paid well, but day by day we lose people because the corporate world is shifting and doesn't see value in software. Of course, we cause our own problems more than anything else.


41 posted on 03/14/2006 9:14:52 PM PST by CodeToad
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To: stainlessbanner

Typical union propaganda piece reprinted as facts by the friendly co-conspirators at the newspapers. Rather than give actual figures, by which one can make meaningful comparisons, one figure is given as it actually is, while the rest are "adjusted for inflation," which could mean anything -- and probably does, to arrive at their preconceived conclusions that salaries and wages are the lowest in history, and so millions of Americans are going to bed starving every night, and so the median weight of Americans (adjusted for inflation) are below that of people starving in Africa.

Also, because wages are so low, nobody can afford to buy cars and so the roads are completely empty with no traffic congestion (adjusting for inflation) while newspaper subscriptions are soaring (adjusting for inflation).

"The median weekly salary in 2005 was $659 (half of all workers earned more, half earned less). After inflation, that’s 1.9% less than in 2004. Average hourly pay for all production and nonsupervisory workers was $16.11—a 0.7% decline when adjusted for inflation. Workers’ retirement and health-care benefits also are shrinking—and not only in troubled industries. Financially healthy companies are freezing their pension plans to exclude new hires and/or younger employees—a trend that’s expected to continue. In a frozen plan, workers stop accruing benefits. This also hurts longtime workers, because they will retire with much less than they expected: Up to 50% of a pension is earned in the last five years on the job."


42 posted on 03/14/2006 9:16:01 PM PST by MikeHu
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To: stainlessbanner

P.S. The salaries that I see in software ranges from $55,000 for lower end to $105,000 for higher end with a solid average being $75,000. The best earn up to $145,000, but they are 1 in maybe 500.


43 posted on 03/14/2006 9:17:32 PM PST by CodeToad
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To: mylife

Did I help?

You sound like someone that lives a work life like me.

At the moment, I am ONE COMMENT away from leaving our company.

However, I love my job so damn much, it would kill me to ever leave this company.

Like I said, everyone knows that we are all walking on egg-shells this week.


44 posted on 03/14/2006 9:18:25 PM PST by Hunble
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To: proxy_user

"Even those who are buying a house for $50K in Faraway, Nebraska need a lawyer to look over the papers.
"


We don't use lawyers for real estate purchases in Colorado.


45 posted on 03/14/2006 9:19:14 PM PST by CodeToad
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To: Washi

"Chiropracty, Reflexology, Phrenology, and Psychology are all sham sciences that far too many people pay far too much money to believe in."


Are you a scientologist?


46 posted on 03/14/2006 9:20:39 PM PST by CodeToad
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To: Hunble

You gave me some perspective

I love my work but I'll never get rich doing it

Gotta hit the rack. Work in the morning you know


47 posted on 03/14/2006 9:23:28 PM PST by mylife (The roar of the masses could be farts)
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To: satchmodog9

Hate lawyers all you want, just remember your hatred when you sidle up to one at the next cocktail party for some "free" advice.

And by the way, not all lawyers are the highly-paid gazillionaires everyone thinks. Most are paid modestly - likely in the neighborhood of $50k or so, depending on geographical location.

The ones that make the big bucks in NYC, LA and other metro-centers work the equivalent of 2 or 3 full time jobs (120+ billable hours a week and 150+ overall hours). Take two or three full time jobs doing exactly what you do and you'll double or triple your salary and you'll make the big bucks as well. But don't forget to kiss your wife and kids in the 20 minutes you see them - if you remember what they look like. . . .


48 posted on 03/14/2006 9:25:32 PM PST by Solemar ("Frognostication": The science of predicting the exact date and time that France will surrender.)
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To: CodeToad
software ranges from $55,000 for lower end to $105,000 for higher end with a solid average being $75,000.

Thanks for sharing that range with me. I strive to be in the upper "average" and never abuse those who are paying me. I know, upper "average" is a contradiction, but most people understand what I was trying to say.

Notice how I have called myself a Software Engineer and not a Programmer.

My job is to invent!

49 posted on 03/14/2006 9:26:04 PM PST by Hunble
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To: MikeHu

And the theme of the day is that the present economy is hurting the midddle and upper middle class folks a lot harder than the people at the lowest end -- and so the poor now should subsidize wage increases for the upper middle (who adjusted for inflation) are really the poor.


50 posted on 03/14/2006 9:26:41 PM PST by MikeHu
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To: stainlessbanner

Sorry, I'm not buying this stuff at all. Something is continuing to drive up greatly increased travel, educational and housing costs. Almost everyone I know is doing much, much better and living at a higher standard then their parents ever imagined.

If it bleeds it leads. The MSM is incapable of delivering good news, however accurate it might be.


51 posted on 03/14/2006 9:28:10 PM PST by Wiseghy ("You want to break this army? Then break your word to it.")
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To: stainlessbanner
Actors: $481 a week?

You ought to be kidding me...$481 a week for actors?!...me thinks it is more like $481 a minute.

52 posted on 03/14/2006 9:28:27 PM PST by danmar ("Reason obeys itself,and ignorance submits to whatever is dictated to it....... Thomas Paine)
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To: CodeToad
Are you a scientologist?

I'm probably missing a joke here but, no, I'm not a scientologist. Why do you ask?

That Katie Holmes is pretty hot though.

53 posted on 03/14/2006 9:29:18 PM PST by Washi
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To: John W
Don't be silly.
I have 2 partially crushed discs.
I am what they call a 95-5 guy.
95% of the time I am fine and can do whatever I want,ski,hike,whatever.
Then for a variety of reasons,or almost no reason at all,
my back will go out. I become crippled and useless this is the 5% of the time.
I could not get out of my house if it was on fire.
My family calls me the crooked man.
takes me 5 minutes to get out of a chair. The most intense pain you can imagine.
Standard physical therapy takes 2-3 weeks at an hour 3 or 4 times a week. This is effective.also a pain in the ass to go
every day,very inconvenient and time consuming.
Standard chiropractic treatment is about ten minutes a day for 3 days in a row. Same result. Full mobility again.
Surgery options will make me a 80-100 guy.
80% mobility 100% of the time. Not very good mobility, will never get much better but could still get worse. Misc complications.
I will eventually have surgery but am waiting until they perfect the injection-able replacement discs. I wish to put off the 80-100 and will live with the 95-5 for as long as I can. Rock and hard place,ya know??

If you think all chiropractors are frauds then you are quite simply wrong, you can not possibly know what you are talking about. I live it so if you don't mind, don't talk down to me.

Think about that.
54 posted on 03/14/2006 9:31:01 PM PST by calljack (Sometimes your worst nightmare is just a start.)
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To: ncountylee
I'm retired at a more or less fixed income each year. But the expenses such as gasoline, energy sources rising all the same, I find myself having to make some adjustments against my will.

I may have to go to Las Vegas again to see if I can get lucky or maybe win a lottery!

55 posted on 03/14/2006 9:32:37 PM PST by Sen Jack S. Fogbound ( It may be that his purpose in life is to serve as a warning to others.)
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To: Washi

Don't know about the last three but you are just wrong about the first.
No it is not a family friend and I am not a stipid person.
Jeez.


56 posted on 03/14/2006 9:32:43 PM PST by calljack (Sometimes your worst nightmare is just a start.)
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To: danmar
Question:

Who ever thinks about their yearly income in terms of "per week?"

When I was working at Mac Donald's, I thought about my hourly wages.

When I became a professional, I thought about it in terms of a yearly salary.

Who thinks in terms of weekly wages?

57 posted on 03/14/2006 9:34:02 PM PST by Hunble
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To: Wiseghy

You've got it right. But reporters aren't interested in boring old prosperity.


58 posted on 03/14/2006 9:36:38 PM PST by speedy
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To: Solemar

Lawyers can double up their billable hours - wait in court with one client, work on a document for another - bill both.

I suspect some of them have a researcher working for $30 an hour, and they bill the client as if they were doing the work, for $200.


59 posted on 03/14/2006 9:37:03 PM PST by VeritatisSplendor
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To: Hunble
Who thinks in terms of weekly wages?

The kinds of bozos who write for Parade Magazine.

60 posted on 03/14/2006 9:37:42 PM PST by speedy
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