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Terri's Day challenges the nation to unify
Renew America ^ | March 13, 2006 | Kevin Fobbs

Posted on 03/14/2006 11:28:51 AM PST by KevinNuPac

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To: bjs1779
Mark Fuhrman, in his book, put the different stories of the events side by side and concluded that Schiavo had seen Terri fall -- which he did not state in any account. I thought it was an interesting take, coming from a trained criminal investigator. The next question is, why didn't he ever say "I saw her fall down" or something like it?

What is threatening to him in saying he saw her fall? It invites all sorts of unwelcome follow-up questions. Where exactly was she standing? How did she fall? Did she keel over? Did she try to grab anything to break her fall? Did she hit her head? Did she slump to her knees? Did she say anything? Did she make any noises? Did she move after she fell? Try to crawl, try to stand? What did YOU do next?

It always struck me that Terri's failure to make any sounds of distress -- words, groans, a scream -- especially needs explaining.

1,641 posted on 04/06/2006 6:19:58 AM PDT by T'wit (Our top bioethicists: 5) Cranford 4) Rachel Carson 3) Ted Bundy 2) Margaret Sanger 1) Eric Pianka.)
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To: 8mmMauser

The review didn't give away any of the book's revelations -- darn it!


1,642 posted on 04/06/2006 6:27:25 AM PDT by T'wit (Our top bioethicists: 5) Cranford 4) Rachel Carson 3) Ted Bundy 2) Margaret Sanger 1) Eric Pianka.)
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To: Wampus SC

Great minds think alike and all that :-)


1,643 posted on 04/06/2006 6:28:08 AM PDT by T'wit (Our top bioethicists: 5) Cranford 4) Rachel Carson 3) Ted Bundy 2) Margaret Sanger 1) Eric Pianka.)
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To: 8mmMauser

Hooray for Pat Anderson! She was always a hero in this story and her words today will find the right hearts.


1,644 posted on 04/06/2006 6:36:26 AM PDT by T'wit (Our top bioethicists: 5) Cranford 4) Rachel Carson 3) Ted Bundy 2) Margaret Sanger 1) Eric Pianka.)
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There is always food for thought in the NCG. With few exceptions regarding Terri's collapse and the subsequent case file, I seem to have more questions unanswered with every look I take. The answered questions just seem so few and far between.


1,645 posted on 04/06/2006 6:42:28 AM PDT by Ohioan from Florida (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.- Edmund Burke)
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To: Ohioan from Florida
>> I would like to know why Michael, according to the police report, says that he and Terri had no recent arguments.

That was a whopper. An untruth. Prevarication. Mendacity. A falsehood. A lie. A bald lie. That whopper would have won the national grand championship for the old Burlington Liar's Club.

(I don't know if anyone will remember the Burlington Liar's Club, but it was a sort of national institution once. Here is one of its real grand championship lies: "It was so cold this winter that I saw a politician with his hands in his own pockets!")

Telling silly yarns at the Liar's Club is fun. Telling lies to the police is criminal obstruction of justice.

1,646 posted on 04/06/2006 6:48:14 AM PDT by T'wit (Our top bioethicists: 5) Cranford 4) Rachel Carson 3) Ted Bundy 2) Margaret Sanger 1) Eric Pianka.)
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To: 8mmMauser

It's weird. All the advertising is there, but there is no article to view. Did it say pretty much the same stuff that the St.Pete Slimes article did?


1,647 posted on 04/06/2006 7:07:24 AM PDT by Ohioan from Florida (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.- Edmund Burke)
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To: 8mmMauser; T'wit

It's sad and disturbing, isn't it!


1,648 posted on 04/06/2006 7:09:34 AM PDT by Ohioan from Florida (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.- Edmund Burke)
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To: Ohioan from Florida

Only trouble with linked material is, you can't discuss it. Be sure to make note of any unanswered questions, then come back and post them here. Then we'll all brainstorm :-)


1,649 posted on 04/06/2006 7:10:49 AM PDT by T'wit (Our top bioethicists: 5) Cranford 4) Rachel Carson 3) Ted Bundy 2) Margaret Sanger 1) Eric Pianka.)
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To: Ohioan from Florida

Doesn't seem alarming. They probably post for a day or two or three and then archive the material. In this case, the article is available from archives but you have to tell the newspaper a bit about yourself to get entry (don't tell them any more than name, rank and serial number :-) ).


1,650 posted on 04/06/2006 7:21:14 AM PDT by T'wit (Our top bioethicists: 5) Cranford 4) Rachel Carson 3) Ted Bundy 2) Margaret Sanger 1) Eric Pianka.)
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To: 8mmMauser; Lesforlife

Perhaps the reporter and the police person were doing what we have understood to be happening for a very long time, that the disabled are routinely overlooked and underheard. Methinks the bias of the reporter is showing!


1,651 posted on 04/06/2006 7:21:41 AM PDT by Ohioan from Florida (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.- Edmund Burke)
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To: Ohioan from Florida
Here's one line from the article to ponder:

[Schiavo] "Acknowledges that Terri must have suffered from the eating disorder bulimia, something he hadn't noticed and was unwilling to accept for years."

"Acknowledging" bulimia that he did not observe, that the Medical Examiner pooh-poohed, and that was essentially disproven by the nature of Terri's injury, is lying through his teeth -- again.

1,652 posted on 04/06/2006 7:29:17 AM PDT by T'wit (Our top bioethicists: 5) Cranford 4) Rachel Carson 3) Ted Bundy 2) Margaret Sanger 1) Eric Pianka.)
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From the article:

And when Bob is asked why God didn’t answer their prayers, Bob sighs and said He did.

“Without God, we would not have made it,” Bob said. “Maybe the prayers weren’t meant to save Terri, but to help us get through this.”

I am a little surprised to see the wording by the Florida Baptist Witness in regard to prayers to God, but am extremely glad that Mr. Schindler answered the way he did. I have always been taught that God does answer all our prayers, but sometimes He say "no" or "not right now" or "yes, but not how you are hoping it will be accomplished". Whenever we feel that God has closed a door, we must always ALWAYS look for the window He has left open for us! He is the Master, and we are His servants, not the other way around.

1,653 posted on 04/06/2006 7:44:49 AM PDT by Ohioan from Florida (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.- Edmund Burke)
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To: T'wit

Oh, I know we will keep looking for the hints. Sometimes I feel as though I'm on a mission of sorts. This sticks in my craw. I cannot forget. This is just one of those things that leaves an imprint on you. Something's just not right, and I probably won't ever get settled about this aspect until it is resolved.


1,654 posted on 04/06/2006 7:51:19 AM PDT by Ohioan from Florida (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.- Edmund Burke)
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To: bjs1779; Ohioan from Florida
Check out this thread.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-backroom/1609512/posts

The United States and/or Florida could not grant TERRI amnesty or a pardon from a barbaric death but Jeb's squishy soft on illegal immigration. Just being Mama's boy or ginning up the illegals? There's been an invasion and Jeb's proving again why he can never be president.

1,655 posted on 04/06/2006 8:10:43 AM PDT by floriduh voter ( www.conservative-spirit.org www.tg2006.com Tom Gallagher 4 Governor)
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To: bjs1779
The Sheriff's Dept. records are available under the FOIA. For info on the Sheriff's Dept. visit www.northcountrygazette.org archives.

Taxpayers and fellow jail employees paid for all of Mikey's leaves of absences re: Terri.

Sheriff's employees donated their sick days so that he could sit there while the State of Florida murdered Terri for him.

1,656 posted on 04/06/2006 8:14:08 AM PDT by floriduh voter ( www.conservative-spirit.org www.tg2006.com Tom Gallagher 4 Governor)
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To: T'wit
"Taking the covers off" is a more recent addition to his re-write of the script of that night.

Did you see the police report at www.judgegeorgegreer.com? There's also a table of Mikey's different versions of that night.

1,657 posted on 04/06/2006 8:15:23 AM PDT by floriduh voter ( www.conservative-spirit.org www.tg2006.com Tom Gallagher 4 Governor)
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To: Wampus SC

Jeb Bush finally came out for illegal immigration. He forgot to go on tv in a sombrero but give him time. He's such a sellout. I apologize for helping him get re-elected.


1,658 posted on 04/06/2006 8:19:45 AM PDT by floriduh voter ( www.conservative-spirit.org www.tg2006.com Tom Gallagher 4 Governor)
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To: 8mmMauser

SCHIAVO-GATE IS REAL. Terri was murdered by governmental interference in her civil rights.


1,659 posted on 04/06/2006 8:21:58 AM PDT by floriduh voter ( www.conservative-spirit.org www.tg2006.com Tom Gallagher 4 Governor)
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To: 8mmMauser
But, an important visitor did go to Hospice Woodside last week. His name is Father Frank Pavone. I'm sure he dropped by Hospice Woodside to pray for those inside who are actually terminal and to throw some holy water around.

(IMO, Mary Labyak's living large off of (victims) like Terri.)

1,660 posted on 04/06/2006 8:25:34 AM PDT by floriduh voter ( www.conservative-spirit.org www.tg2006.com Tom Gallagher 4 Governor)
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