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Terri's Day challenges the nation to unify
Renew America ^ | March 13, 2006 | Kevin Fobbs

Posted on 03/14/2006 11:28:51 AM PST by KevinNuPac

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To: bjs1779
>> Doctor Harrison... says that her EEG is so depressed

What's on the record is that Dr. Harrison -- ghoulish though he is on this account -- did not say her EEG was "completely flat." He said "depressed." I gather he saw Terri only once and that was enough for him to opine that she had "died" four years earlier? And this with merely "depressed" brain function according to a single EEG? This does not sound credible at all -- at least not coming from Michael.

Any medics around to help with this? Pending better info, I've been told that EEGs are about the weakest tool in the neurologists' kit and will probably be obsolete soon. They aren't terribly reliable, I gather.

1,281 posted on 03/30/2006 6:33:41 PM PST by T'wit (Our top bioethicists: 5) Cranford, 4) John Wayne Gacy, 3) Kevorkian, 2) Bundy, 1) Margaret Sanger.)
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To: bjs1779
I wouldn't go too far down that road. Wolfson was certainly part of the pack and he agreed with Greer on 99.7%. It was particularly galling because he was the only legal representation Terri got and his legal duty was to look after HER interests, not the guardian's. I think his call for swallowing tests was window dressing. Camouflage. An ounce of "dissent" to play up in the press while putting one more knife in Terri's back.

Jay Wolfson is out on the Death with Dignity Speaking Tour with the others. I have no doubt they go to banquets that serve both water and food.

1,282 posted on 03/30/2006 6:43:26 PM PST by T'wit (Our top bioethicists: 5) Cranford, 4) John Wayne Gacy, 3) Kevorkian, 2) Bundy, 1) Margaret Sanger.)
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To: bjs1779

No.

Did you?


1,283 posted on 03/30/2006 6:44:15 PM PST by BykrBayb ("We will not be silent. We are your bad conscience. The White Rose will give you no rest.")
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To: bjs1779
>> Haul him in for questioning I say.

Heck, send him to Gitmo for questioning.

1,284 posted on 03/30/2006 6:54:35 PM PST by T'wit (Our top bioethicists: 5) Cranford, 4) John Wayne Gacy, 3) Kevorkian, 2) Bundy, 1) Margaret Sanger.)
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To: TheSarce

You are kind but Lewis deserves the credit. The way to repay his teaching is to read it, learn it, and share it.


1,285 posted on 03/30/2006 7:07:42 PM PST by T'wit (Our top bioethicists: 5) Cranford, 4) John Wayne Gacy, 3) Kevorkian, 2) Bundy, 1) Margaret Sanger.)
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To: Ohioan from Florida

Amen. It is not a far-fetched hope.


1,286 posted on 03/30/2006 7:14:52 PM PST by T'wit (Our top bioethicists: 5) Cranford, 4) John Wayne Gacy, 3) Kevorkian, 2) Bundy, 1) Margaret Sanger.)
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To: 8mmMauser
>> There you go, using Hubbard in vain. Can felos be used as a verb, as in "The serial killer felosed another victim>"?

Mother of Hubbard, 8mm, what a question! (Any feedback here about "fetch the poor dog a bone" will be jeered at.)

If horse felos means what we all think it means, felos as a verb must mean pitching the ol' horse felos, usually at press conferences. We need a different verb for initiating Felosian Death Experiences. Let us ponder. Is my tagline any help? To Cranford? To Greer? To Bundy? To Kevorkian?

I'm going to withdraw Bundy from the nominations. He was much too nice for this gang.

1,287 posted on 03/30/2006 7:28:00 PM PST by T'wit (Our top bioethicists: 5) Cranford, 4) John Wayne Gacy, 3) Kevorkian, 2) Bundy, 1) Margaret Sanger.)
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To: BykrBayb
>> I wonder if he ever had a moment after that when he didn't see it.

Well said!

1,288 posted on 03/30/2006 7:29:22 PM PST by T'wit (Our top bioethicists: 5) Cranford, 4) John Wayne Gacy, 3) Kevorkian, 2) Bundy, 1) Margaret Sanger.)
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To: T'wit
Michael is saying what God's fallen children must say -- "I didn't do anything wrong. I did good."

But what they're really thinking is "if I believe hard enough that I didn't do anything wrong, I'll feel better about it."

1,289 posted on 03/30/2006 8:27:12 PM PST by supercat (Sony delenda est.)
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To: bjs1779
** None whats so ever. The book of Revelations is getting closer all the time.**

I couldn't agree more. If ever there were a time when almost all of the events the Prophets of Old have predicted, are coming to pass, it is the here and now.

We're probably headed for some very troubling times. Even the technology to chip us is available. I think the anti-christ will come out of the EU. How fitting since it's the beginning letters of EUthanasia.

All the snarling talk of a right to die - right to kill babies - right to kill loved ones - will fade away into the sound of people just trying to survive the pounding hooves of the pale horse and it's rider called DEATH. Ironic, isn't it.
1,290 posted on 03/30/2006 8:45:28 PM PST by Pepper777
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To: BykrBayb

"" I wonder if he ever had a moment after that when he didn't see it. That's a memory that could drive anyone to suicide.""

The father was probably haunted by his daughter, Nancy's torment, day and night. He choose death to escape the horror of what he did. I imagine the policeman who was quoted, has had many sleepless nights as well.

I read some where that Nancy's headstone is written almost exactly like Terri's - with the date of the injury listed as the date of death. If true, it tells me some one other than the parents and Michael, were the author of using those insane dates. Those who are promoting this insanity are using people like Michael and Nancy's family, to set precedent for their hellish plans.

No matter who the human author is, the real author surely is the devil himself - a liar from the beginning of time - a thief who comes only to steal, kill and destroy.


1,291 posted on 03/30/2006 9:10:44 PM PST by Pepper777
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To: T'wit

**""" So that's what happened! He asphyxiated her with the covers!""**

Whoa, you seriously might be on to the real story, T'wit. Sociopaths talk in what I call a type of coded language such as that very type of thing. They tell the truth, but it's hidden away in little clues. They think it's funny when no one gets it.

I think michael is laughing at his own supporters. Especially those who are honoring him as the guardian of the year and ect. What stinking fools.

I so wish Furhman or another real detective would continue to investigate what happened. Not that MS will ever be charged, but at least a believable profile of truth could be told, which would put an end to calling Terri's case a Right to Die case.

The MSM constantly misleads the public by implying Felos, the ACLU and the rest of the death ilk, were actually doing Terri a favor by killing her - and hence giving her, her wish, by winning a right to die case for Terri. What total BS.

I'll never believe Terri wanted to die. She fought for her life more times than we'll ever know. I shudder to imagine how many times she was tormented.


1,292 posted on 03/30/2006 9:35:52 PM PST by Pepper777
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To: T'wit

Yes, I think you're right about the spelling of Pearse. I could only remember the name, but had forgotten the way it was spelled. Pearse looks correct now that you've reminded me. Thanks. :)


1,293 posted on 03/30/2006 9:38:22 PM PST by Pepper777
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To: supercat
We were just discussing the White Rose above. One thing they said in a flyer is their "signature" now. It's the credo everyone hears: "We will not be silent. We are your bad conscience. We will give you no peace."

Look at how Michael fits those words. He has a guilty conscience and it is giving him no peace. He keeps trying to wash the blood off his hands, like Lady MacBeth. He lies, he denies, he lies some more. He imagines we cannot see what drives this torrent of lies. But we do see. And the more he insists in his slippery statements that he's not guilty, the more we see that he is.

The only way out is the old, old one. He has to confess and repent. He has to atone for his misdeeds.

1,294 posted on 03/30/2006 9:44:34 PM PST by T'wit (Our top bioethicists: 5) Cranford, 4) John Wayne Gacy, 3) Kevorkian, 2) Bundy, 1) Margaret Sanger.)
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To: Pepper777

Hey, teamwork. I probably wouldn't have thought of it w/o your tip :-) He was the only one who gave Terri the time of day -- and naturally it got him kicked out.


1,295 posted on 03/30/2006 9:46:07 PM PST by T'wit (Our top bioethicists: 5) Cranford, 4) John Wayne Gacy, 3) Kevorkian, 2) Bundy, 1) Margaret Sanger.)
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To: Pepper777
>> Sociopaths talk in what I call a type of coded language such as that very type of thing. They tell the truth, but it's hidden away in little clues. They think it's funny when no one gets it.

At which Bubba Billy Clinton is a master :-) It's a little boy thing with him, more playful or mischievous than deceitful. With Michael it sounds more like a blurt. An accidental lapse. I don't read him as a word person. He has no ear for language and he's not a good liar.

I've been struck by him saying (as he has before) "For some strange reason..." Now that is a very weird way to describe being awakened/getting up in the middle of the night -- and at the very moment your wife is supposedly collapsing and dying. I'm not sure what to make of it. But it could well be that he is blotting out some terrible scene and starting the story where it is safe, right afterward... as she fell.

"Thud." He mentioned the sound several times. In one version it woke him up. In another, he was "up for some reason" and then heard the thud. In this one, no thud, he gets up, she goes down, implying that he saw it. (Mark Furhman thinks he DID see Terri fall though he never said so.)

Too many stories!

Another little bone to chew on. If he was just getting out of bed when Terri went down, why was he dressed when Bobby and the Emergency people got there? He's got a wife all but dead on the floor and he leaves her to get dressed?

1,296 posted on 03/30/2006 10:14:42 PM PST by T'wit (Our top bioethicists: 5) Cranford, 4) John Wayne Gacy, 3) Kevorkian, 2) Bundy, 1) Margaret Sanger.)
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To: Pepper777
If true, it tells me some one other than the parents and Michael, were the author of using those insane dates.

Or that Michael was aware of the text on Nancy Cruzan's grave marker and decided to do his likewise.

1,297 posted on 03/30/2006 10:20:52 PM PST by supercat (Sony delenda est.)
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To: Pepper777
>> I so wish Furhman or another real detective would continue to investigate

"Oh, er, just one more thing, Mr. Schiavo..."


1,298 posted on 03/30/2006 10:28:59 PM PST by T'wit (Our top bioethicists: 5) Cranford, 4) John Wayne Gacy, 3) Kevorkian, 2) Bundy, 1) Margaret Sanger.)
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To: Pepper777
Seems you heard right. Supposedly it says this:

NANCY BETH CRUZAN
MOST LOVED
DAUGHTER - SISTER - AUNT
BORN JULY 20, 1957
DEPARTED JAN 11, 1983
AT PEACE DEC 26, 1990

1,299 posted on 03/30/2006 10:34:37 PM PST by T'wit (Our top bioethicists: 5) Cranford, 4) John Wayne Gacy, 3) Kevorkian, 2) Bundy, 1) Margaret Sanger.)
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To: Pepper777
Compare to Terri's plaque:

Schiavo
Theresa Marie
Beloved Wife
Born December 3, 1963
Departed this Earth
February 25, 1990
At Peace March 31, 2005
I kept my promise

1,300 posted on 03/30/2006 10:38:54 PM PST by T'wit (Our top bioethicists: 5) Cranford, 4) John Wayne Gacy, 3) Kevorkian, 2) Bundy, 1) Margaret Sanger.)
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