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Dubai has triumphed
Gulf News ^ | March 12, 2006 | Habib Toumi

Posted on 03/12/2006 2:59:23 AM PST by PrinceOfCups

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To: maica

Its incredible. True they treat Rice in a horrible way. Of course now they treat anyone in front of their committees like trash.


81 posted on 03/12/2006 5:38:18 AM PST by bayourant
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To: Homyak3
Technically Saudi and Pakistan are allies on the WOT too. Don't be a sucker. But believe what you will

I'll believe those "suckers" Gens. Tommy Franks and Peter Pace.

82 posted on 03/12/2006 5:38:38 AM PST by Dane ( anyone who believes hillary would do something to stop illegal immigration is believing gibberish)
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To: aligncare
Dubai is part of the 21st Century; they're into business - not jihad.

Good point.

But you must also realize that if not for the billions of US dollars going to the Dubai/UAE monarchy each day, they would likely run back to their Christian-Judeo hating friends.

Money is a very powerful incentive to "friendship". And consider that Dubai is addicted to our dollars just as much as we are addicted to their oil.

If the dollars were suddenly cut off, they'd go into withdrawal, and it wouldn't be pretty.

83 posted on 03/12/2006 5:39:23 AM PST by Edit35
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To: Dane

And Tiger does that for free too! (/sar)


84 posted on 03/12/2006 5:40:29 AM PST by sausageseller (Look out for the jackbooted spelling police. There! Everywhere!(revised cause the "man" accosted me!)
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To: Homyak3

How am I a leftist?. I hate to be viewed as "droning" however there is an honorable position within the conservative movement for the positions that GWB is taking. I just want to do my part to defend it till a few others wake up this morning to take over.


85 posted on 03/12/2006 5:41:04 AM PST by bayourant
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To: Dane

I know to even put the House of Saud and Pakistan into the same category as the UAE just shows the level of misinformation that is out there. My GOd they had a hard rock concert fest this week. Does that sound like the House of Saud? Why dont people listen to people that live ther including the guy that started this thread.


86 posted on 03/12/2006 5:43:56 AM PST by bayourant
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To: aligncare
By all accounts, since 9-11, they've supplied active support for the war on terror.

Yes, they cleaned up their act twice.

Once in 1990 when they saw a half million highly armed US soldiers heading their way, gunnin' for bear (and Saddam).

And again after 9/11, when another US army headed their way.

After 9/11, they realized the US would not tolerate their duplicitious ways in which they befriended the USA, and the radical Wahabi-Maddras shieks at the same time.

87 posted on 03/12/2006 5:45:23 AM PST by Edit35
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To: jec41
Israels largest shipping company Zim

One Israeli company does not an acceptance make.

Take away Zim's substantial $$ payments to Dubai, and what's left?

89 posted on 03/12/2006 5:48:24 AM PST by Edit35
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To: bayourant
They also keep the Wahabbism stuff out ...

They keep it hidden, not necessarily 'out'.

90 posted on 03/12/2006 5:51:04 AM PST by Edit35
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To: MojoWire; All; Amos the Prophet; bayourant

American Revolutionary War
From Wikipedia,

Date: 1775–1783
Location: North America and at sea
Result: Treaty of Paris (1783
The American Revolutionary War (1775–1783), also known as the American War of Independence, was the military component of the American Revolution. It was fought primarily between Great Britain and revolutionaries within thirteen British colonies in North America, who declared their independence as the United States of America early in the war. The war began largely as a colonial revolt against the economic policies of the British Empire, and eventually widened far beyond British North America, with France, Spain, and the Netherlands entering the war against Great Britain. Additionally, many Native Americans fought on both sides of the conflict.

Throughout the war, the British were able to use their naval superiority to capture and occupy coastal cities, but control of the countryside (where most of the population lived) largely eluded them. French involvement proved decisive, with a naval victory in the Chesapeake leading to the surrender of a British army at the Battle of Yorktown in 1781. The Treaty of Paris in 1783 recognized the independence of the United States.

Only about 25% of Americans supported the American Revolution, 5000 loyists fought for the British and 7000 left the country after the war. It was mostly about trade. Were the other 75% wrong?

If you don't like Wikipedia, check any History book.


91 posted on 03/12/2006 5:52:33 AM PST by jec41 (Screaming Eagle)
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To: MojoWire

Dont you think its very likely that the Israeli company mentioned consulted with people in the Govt as to their defense. There is more to the relationship between the UAE and Israel that meets the eye here.


92 posted on 03/12/2006 5:52:40 AM PST by bayourant
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To: thoughtomator

IMO since 9-11 UAE has demonstrated their willingness to stand with the US and modernity and stand against jihad. The Pentagon says they're a good military ally in civilization's war on terror.

We should not have behaved as we did towards DP World. I thought it demonstrated our distrust of Arabs at this time in history. I would expect that from the dems - but I expected better of the republicans. Silly me.


93 posted on 03/12/2006 5:53:23 AM PST by aligncare (Watergate killed journalism)
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To: MojoWire

They keep it out. Thats one reason you dont have terrorist attacjs there like in Saudi Arabi. There might be a few running around but the bloggers in the UAE opening show their contempt for it on a daily basis.


94 posted on 03/12/2006 5:54:06 AM PST by bayourant
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To: aligncare

God help us if another terrorist attack occurs here in the next 6 months. The hysteria toward our allies will go through the roof right when we might need them the most. I cant wait till this fevor pitch of "ISLAM ISALM ISLAM" goes down a bit


95 posted on 03/12/2006 5:56:36 AM PST by bayourant
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To: maica
I believe that they truly have no knowledge of international shipping at all. Now they are talking like they are going to set up something like our lovely airport security in our ports. They don't even see that airport security happens at the loading end, not the offloading end.

The whole event just turned out to be about ME GETTING ELECTED. Now they need to cover up their tracks before someone dissects the event with logic and facts. Just shameful.
96 posted on 03/12/2006 5:57:15 AM PST by PrinceOfCups (Just the facts, Ma'am.)
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To: Dane
Yeah real smart, push them to the chicomms,

My point is that this ports deal represents maybe 1/100th of 1-percent of the business we do with Dubai/UAE, and we aren't about to stop that business. (because we both benefit)

But if that money were to stop, they are not beholden to the US because of any special love for our Christian-Judeo ethics, or our western ideals.

They love us because we flood them with enough money for them to be able to buy gold plated Boeing 767's, etc.

97 posted on 03/12/2006 6:03:51 AM PST by Edit35
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To: Homyak3
Funny, I thought US policy was to 'find and destroy the quasi religious political organization al Qaeda and it's supporters (political State or otherwise)'...not 'destroy all Muslims'. But, you're not suggesting that, right?
98 posted on 03/12/2006 6:11:42 AM PST by aligncare (Watergate killed journalism)
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To: UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide

Actually, Israeli business interests do work in and with Dubai. If you'd bother reading some of the news articles posted about that relationship you would know that.


99 posted on 03/12/2006 6:13:09 AM PST by muawiyah (-)
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To: bayourant
At least I am concerned about the stability of our bases there.

When I leave for a six month naval deployment in September, I, for one, hope that this mess has blown over. My ship will pull into Jabal Ali several times and current US-UAE relations will likely determine if we are allowed to leave the confining "sandbox" surrounding the ship and take a 45 minute cab ride to Dubai.

I loved Dubai. I've been there three times. Fond, fond memories. A gem in the Middle East.

100 posted on 03/12/2006 6:14:27 AM PST by Drew68
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